Goal Setting That Actually Works: Drop What Is Not Yours and Build What Is

If a goal on your list is not yours, grinding harder will not help. It will burn you out faster.

In Part 2 of this recap episode, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass go deeper into what the Reignite Live Mid-Year Success Summit revealed about the goals most people are chasing. They share how speaker Sheri Engstrom introduced the Four Chambers framework and got attendees moving their bodies after two days of content, and why three minutes of movement made a noticeable difference in how people showed up for the rest of the session.

Natalie and Pam also address the goal-setting conversation that hit hardest at the summit. Many attendees were working toward goals that were not actually theirs. Social pressure, FOMO, what a boss assigned, or what an influencer made look successful. These are not goals. They are distractions. Natalie and Pam give listeners direct permission to remove them, tweak them, or replace them entirely with what actually lights you up.

The conversation closes with a commitment Natalie and Pam make on air: to read Tim Ferriss's Four-Hour Work Week, apply the Time Bender framework to their own schedules, and report back at Reignite Live 2027. They close with a direct invitation for listeners to hold them accountable in person on January 22, 2027.

In This Episode:

• How Sheri Engstrom's Four Chambers framework and three minutes of body movement shifted the energy of the entire summit
• Why goals that belong to someone else will never get you into flow state, and how to identify them on your current list
• The direct link between burnout and chasing goals that are not yours
• Why Natalie and Pam are publicly committing to shrink their work week using the Time Bender framework before the next event
• What Reignite Live 2027 will cover, why it is on January 22 in Loveland, Colorado, and how to save your spot now

The summit recordings and workbook are available now at $47. 

Mark your calendar: Reignite Live returns January 22, 2027, at Casa Sagrada in Loveland, Colorado. You now have six months notice.

Connect with Reignite Resilience:
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 Email: podcast@reigniteresilience.com

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, Natalie Davis and Pamela Kat.

SPEAKER_01 0:46

Well, and then it's going to lead us because we have another event live in person. And so if you were not able to come last January, we are doing it again because it was such a big success and it was amazing. And it's going to be just as amazing because we're going to get more speakers, different speakers. Um yeah, and so we're excited. So that's going to be January 22nd, 2027. So you are getting six over six months notice. Yes. Get this on your calendar now. It's the Friday for the Friday of January, and it's the first full moon of the year. New year. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's going to be an absolute life-changing event. So we we are going to, you're going to start to hear us promote this because um we're passionate about this. We when we started this podcast, we're like, okay, we we just don't want to just do a podcast. I mean, it's great. We're meeting amazing people. We also want to bring you extra value outside of the podcast. And this is why we did the two-day virtual event. This is why we're going to do this. It's going to be annual. Every year we're going to do this, this actual in-person event. And I don't know, Natalie, I think next we need to do some uh retreats, some retreats, getaways, a hundred percent. Because we've had multiple people ask us about doing facilitating think weeks for people. And this is what this podcast has birthed out of, the books have birthed out of, the um education program, the online training program that we have for um agents has birthed out of. I mean, we have birthed so many things out of those think weeks. And if we can share it with other people that do the same thing in their lives, whatever that is, if it's for their business, for their companies, or if they're wanting to launch a business or launch a podcast or whatever that looks like, um, we'll we'll take you through it.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

We'll hold that space for them to create what that looks like. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

I love that.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

I think that's fabulous. And now you all understand why I need like my January 27 calendar up, right? Like this is where I'm in that moment where I'm like, this is great. But I am definitely a person that is planning six months in advance. And so here we are, halfway through the year, six months from now, uh, already starts to push us into January, if if you're not aware of that. As of you listening to this, we're officially in January. So let that sink in for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Just yeah. Just let it sink in that we are going to be at the end of the year before we know it.

SPEAKER_02 3:17

Oh my gosh. Before we will blink and it'll be here. Wow. That'll be yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Exactly and say, wow, I rocked those last six months of this year. Exactly. Or we say, Well, I just kind of coasted, just kind of wrote on my laurel laurels. Or did I actually knock it out of the park? Well, I'm planning on knocking it out of the park.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Like exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

We got stuff to do.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

There are things that need to be done. Things that need to be done, lives that need to be changed. And if we are just waiting for something to happen around us, then those things are not gonna happen, right? Like we have to have the impact. We have to we have to dream it and then do it. Like we have to take the action piece. And that I do love that, you know, going back to the summit, um, everyone was able to walk away with an actual workbook that took them, that gave them like action items that they can start to implement and take, you know, some significant action and strides towards their goals, whether they're resetting their goals or if they are um uh just simply like uh making sure that they're on track and taking the steps to continue to hit those goals. Like that's I think all of those uh things were established with some of our participants and attendees and and some that were like, I I never even worked on goals before this year. So they joined us and and those are always fun too, right? Like people that enter into the year that haven't set goals. No judgment. That's fine. They walked away with some after the summit, so that was good.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

Well, it's interesting because you know, if I think about it, before I got into being an independent contractor, self-employed, I probably didn't have goals. I mean, I maybe had goals that my company set for me, but did we did we do business planning? I probably didn't in my old careers. I mean, I was in the restaurant industry, there's no business planning. So I I think it is probably foreign to a lot of people that are maybe W-2, but a beautiful thing. You don't have to be an entrepreneur, you don't have to be a business owner to set goals because you can create goals that are personal, they don't have to be business related. Exactly. I I think that I would encourage you if you've not done it, do a business plan for yourself. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 5:30

And I I love that that's so interesting, Pay, because I I feel like I'm so separated from that past whole life. Wait a minute, I don't think I did that. I know that I didn't. Absolutely not. I you kind of had targets that were assessed for you. Yeah. Um but I and I had personal goals, like things that I wanted to do, but that was around like experiences and travel and you know, things that the kids needed to do or whatever. Yeah. Um, but for my career, I didn't have a space to create goals. I don't even know if I had input to share what I wanted or hoped to achieve out of the I don't know, maybe I met with HR and they asked me something like that. Whatever happened, it wasn't memorable because I don't remember it.

SPEAKER_01 6:15

That's funny. And it's it's interesting because when I was um, you know, just selling real estate and then went into leadership in the real estate space. One of the first things I did was I met with all of my staff and said, What are your goals? And they're like, Well, what do you mean goals? I'm like, what are your personal goals? Where do you see yourself in five years? And and so I know that nobody had ever asked them that question before. So you don't wait for a leader to ask you that question. Ask that question of yourself. Where do I want to be in five years? Where do I want to be in 10 years? Yeah. It's I love this job that I'm in and I am fine doing this the rest of my life. Great, own it. But if there's something you're like, you know what? No, I would really like to do blank and the sky's the limit, then you can start working your way backwards and figuring out, well, what needs to happen this year to start moving me towards that five-year vision that I have for what's going to move that needle forward 100%.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

100%. Yeah. I think that's so, that's so interesting. And I can see where individuals, when posed with that question, could probably shut down, right? Especially if they're um salaried or, you know, hourly employees where they're they're not in a space where they have to think about their goals, where they would think, well, should I want more? Do I want more? No, that's not. And that's one of the things that we talked about during uh the success summit is like latching onto these things, these goals um that we're striving for that are not actually ours. The whole premise is figuring out what you want and then lock into it and then figure out how you're gonna get there. Like that's it. Um, all of these things, like the external society tells you what it's supposed to look like, a mentor has told you what it's supposed to look like, your boss tells you what it's supposed to look like. That has no influence on it. What do you want? How are you going to get there and creating the plan to do it is what we touched on.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

And I and I think that's that's the key there is it's gotta be your goal. Yes, not what you saw. Cause I mean, you just you just mentioned about all these people doing this social media uh challenge for 40 days. You're like, well, this this influencer is doing it this way, and I could see your mind say, well, maybe I should, that should be one of my goals. But you were able to say not my goal, not mine. But it's hard when you're like, you get the little bit of the FOMO. Well, if they do it, are they successful and I'm gonna be left behind? And it's like that's it.

SPEAKER_02 8:41

Exactly. That's it. I I feel like that's the only thing that it it uh the impact that it has is like I just have the sense of FOMO. I'm like, okay, well, how's it going for everyone? I didn't do it.

SPEAKER_01 8:53

Yeah, so we gotta you gotta let that go because if again, and I think we said this a while ago, if it's not truly your heart's desire, you're never gonna be able to get in a flow state and you're never gonna do it. You just won't do it. And so I would challenge you if for those people that do have goals that they've got on their wall or vision board or whatever, ask yourself the question does that light me up? Like does get me excited? And if the answer is no, then whose goal is it? Is that your goal? Or was that somebody else's goal? Maybe it was you saw one of your friends, they achieved that, or they and if that's the case, let it go because you will never achieve it. And then you're just gonna always feel you're always gonna be down on yourself thinking, oh my gosh, I should be doing that. And I should no, you shouldn't. If it's not your goal and it's somebody else's, it shouldn't, it shouldn't be on there.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Get let it. It shouldn't even take your attention and energy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Natalie and I are giving you permission to remove it.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

And figure out what what lights you up. Like when or tweak it.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Tweak it. Or tweak it. You might need to tweak it. Yeah, if you need to tweak it, great. If you need to to cut it all together, great. Uh, but if it's not yours, you gotta do something with it. Don't just keep pushing and grinding and trying to do it because that's what you're gonna do is push and grind, and it's gonna feel like that.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

And then that leads to burnout and then exactly. And we don't like that.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

Exactly. Oh my gosh. That's so true. That yeah, so I I do love that piece of it. Um, we again we had uh Miss Sherry that uh Miss Sexy Flexi that came on and gave us the the four chambers framework as well, which I was completely in awe of. Like hearing her personal story as well. Um, she was able to give us uh just how she came to this framework and understanding of the importance of of all areas of our lives fitting into the four chambers of our heart as well. And uh, we had a little bit of movement, which was good. That was like we'd spent some days together and then we got to just move our body. And that I think I shared this on the uh recording or and definitely shared it live, is that I spend a lot of time, especially on my creative days, in front of my computer at my desk, and I'm fine with it, right? I can probably sit and knock out a good 12 hours at my desk and not have a problem, um, not having any interruptions and things like that. The fact that she was able to get us to move our body, get the blood flowing, and get the juices flowing, like I felt like I was really firing on all engines at that point. And it was maybe three minutes, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Yeah, maybe. Well, and that just yeah, then you just wonder, could you shrink that 12-hour day to a lesser amount of time? Yes. If your body is more fired up, you're able to be way more focused on your work. And so that's the idea of getting into that flow stage. When we're when we are not fully in our bodies and we are exhausted and we are just grinding, we're it we're gonna it's gonna take us longer to do things.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:59

And so um yeah, I I th I challenge you to shrink that 12 hours down to an eight hour and facts.

SPEAKER_02 12:06

Absolutely, I could. I think if I was able to incorporate like the body movement piece um throughout my day, um, it would make a huge, it would make a huge difference. It would make a huge difference. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

100%. I I'll just text you like maybe on the hour and I'll say, all right, time for a three-minute dance party. And you can do it, you I don't I we don't have to do anything. I'm just I'll tell you, all right, all right, it's time for your dance party.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

Dance party. You know what? Here's the thing, my smart ring already tells me that, and I don't do ignore it and you ignore it. Well, I am I do I'm like dismiss notification. I know I need to stretch my legs. Let me sit for a minute.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Give me a minute. I love dancing and I love music, and so um I am new, like very, very newly an empty nester. And um I was introduced to this new song and it's got this incredible beat. Let me tell you how I had my AirPods in, and I know I was singing loud. I'm sure my neighbors freaking heard me. I don't give a I don't give a hoo about it. That's your problem. I'm dancing around. And let me tell you, I had to drive somewhere today and I was dancing in the car to and I'm like, I don't even care. You get to a certain age, you don't really care anymore. But I was just moving body, yeah. And I just it it literally gives you this like jolt of energy. And so instead of sitting in your computer for 12 hours, like give yourself maybe it's 45 minutes or an hour, and then you up coffee for three minutes, do a dance party.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Oh, I I should be I should be more fourth card. Like I'm not sitting here for 12 hours. Okay. Okay. No, no, no, no, no, no. I no no no. But that it's I I do feel like I could shrink the day down though, right? Like I feel like where I am, and again, it bec it becomes when you're in that flow state. One, like you're in that flow state, things just come so much faster and they just work so much fast. Like it everything just aligns. Um, and so that helps tremendously. And I know, um, I I know it because I journal on it. There are days where one of my focuses or like my if it might even pop up in the form of a gratitude, is like my ability to stay in the flow state. Um, like that pops up for me in in some of my morning routines. And I know like when I'm in the flow state, because then the next day I'm like gratitude for being in the flow state and being able to knock out a big project or whatever. Yeah, not every day is like that. Again, so this again for everyone, like we talk about this. We are in no way, shape, or form perfect, and we're not striving for for perfection at all. No. What we are striving for is continuous progress.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

Um, better every day. Every day. One percent better every day. Yeah. That's all just one.

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Yeah, if I could shrink my day down into uh, who was it? Was it Tim Ferris that has the four-hour work week? Yeah. Wait, four-hour hour work. I think it's four-hour. Four-hour work week. It is the four-hour work week. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 15:13

So he doesn't even sound right.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

Sound that thing it.

SPEAKER_01 15:17

I just uh had a hive pop up from here in that four-hour work.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

And he wrote that book well before any automation systems and large language learning models. So imagine that. Imagine that now. We have been we've been giving tools to leverage ourselves significantly.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

I would love to get my flow state to 20 minutes and have a four-hour work week. That is ideal for me. That's my goal that I'm trying to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 15:46

Okay. Yeah. Well, maybe that's what that's what Reignite Live 2027 is the key. Like, because I mean, this time bender framework, I think it's something we can keep going a little deeper, a little deeper on. And it's how do we get to that space where we are so in the flow state that we can shrink our work week down to four hours or even, I mean, whatever that looks like. And maybe it's not going from what we are now to four hours. Maybe it's just incrementally shrinking it.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

No, I would I would go into like not anaphylactic shock, but what is that shock like shock, like hyperthermic shock or whatever like my body would be like, what are we doing? Don't take my regular week and only give me four hours a week. Now I don't want it. I'm gonna resist it and repel it. But uh, I want to get there to get there in a way that feels natural. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 16:37

So it's like over a period of time. And so what are the I don't want to force it. No, I don't want to force it. So that's our work over this next six months prepping for 2027, January 2nd, is how do we how do we shrink our work week so that we are dialed in flow state every time we sit down to do any sort of work? Um and that's gonna, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

I'm gonna have to go back and read the book now. I'm dang it, we got homework. Now here, I just as we talk about like pulling things off of our schedule. Now I'm like, well, now I I need to I need to I need to actually read the book. So I'm gonna add something else to my schedule.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Well, I'm gonna add it. All right, I'll add it to my list of I'll read it as well and let's figure out, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Exactly. I need to see how long of an audio read is that. Um and are we saying it right? It is a four-hour, it is a four-hour work week. That's what I thought it was. Um the expanded version. We can listen, it released in 2009. It's a 13-hour week, a 13-hour read.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Well crap. If that's a 13-hour read and we're only working four hours a week, that's gonna take me freaking three weeks to listen to it.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

This would constitute us the work. I think this is the extracurricular. All right, fine. Whatever. Goodness. Small incremental steps, you all. However, you and if it takes you three weeks to get through the book, it takes you three weeks to get through the book. That's fine. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

That's okay. That's okay. I won't remember what was on the first page, but I'll get it done.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

By the time you get to the end, it's so funny. I have a friend that has like, we met for coffee a few months ago, and she had all of these books that she recommended. And I kept like, if I if you tell me a book, I have to flag it and add it to my reading list right away, or else I'll forget. And so she was telling me a book and she told me another book, and she told me another book. And after the third book, I looked at her and I said, Do you read any books that are shorter than a 13-hour read? Like, why are your books so long? Like, why is everything so long? I know. I'm like four reads that were all 20-hour reads. I was like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 18:47

I'm like nine hours or less, I'm good. You can do that 13, 16. I'm just like, it's gotta be an epic book to get me to actually finish it. Because I feel like some of those books, and I don't know if you've experienced it, some of those books that are those double digit times, it's just the same stuff said multiple different ways. And I'm like, shrink this, like, give me the cliff notes on this.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

Um I know the publishers don't want to hear that, but welcome to. I know they don't want to hear that.

SPEAKER_01 19:19

But here's what here's what we don't have a lot of extra time.

SPEAKER_02 19:23

Time. This is what we're trying to scale back, and now I'm gonna dive into a 13-hour book.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

Okay, all right. I will put it on my list. We will both read it. Um, and we will yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

I'm reading a pretty lengthy one right now for a mastermind group and prep for it that kicks off here in the next couple of weeks. So I am just like, okay, we can do all of the things, and that in in in an effort to prepare us that we can stop doing all of the things and do only the things we're gonna do.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Preparing to prepare to prepare to be I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_02 19:52

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm gonna just do it. That's why I just committed. We're reading the book.

SPEAKER_01 19:57

We're just gonna do it because we are going to be.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

It is happening.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

It is happening because I want to work four hours a week.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Exactly. That's I mean, did you see okay? For the listeners, I know if you're not, if you're listening and not seeing the video version of this episode, we couldn't even like comprehend saying the term four-hour work week. Pamela's like, four, no, not four week we're a four-hour work, day, like four.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

It can't be right. Like my body was already rejecting it. So it's probably gonna take me 13, a 13-hour read to actually get my body to like.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

We're gonna get you there. We're gonna we're gonna get you there. And who was it? It is, yeah, it is Tim Ferris. Hey Tim Ferris, if you're in this episode, you should come on the show and talk to us. Yeah, you should do it in it. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

All right.

SPEAKER_02 20:45

I think we're if you didn't realize it, we had a lot of fun at the Success Summit. So um, Mid-Year Success Summit Summit, it's a wrap. The recording is available for you to check out. Each of the speakers' segments, um, they're broken down. The entire workbook is online for you as well. So you get to download a copy of the workbook, create your own 90-day plan of what you want to do, how you want to take action, and change, create change in your life and make sure that you're doing it from a place that's total alignment and flow. Um, but yeah, it was a good time. A good time was had. A good time was had.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Okay, I don't think we can ever do something where we don't have a good time.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Facts. Not possible. Not in my DNA.

unknown 21:24

No.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

No. So I mean, if it if it involves us, y'all know it's gonna be a good time.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

100%. Like my little um DNA strand thing, mine are probably having a dance party the whole time. They're all having a good time.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Totally. And that's not from caffeine.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

That's just because we're having a good time. We're a good time.

SPEAKER_01 21:44

We are a good time. We bring the good time with.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

Well, we're here. Yeah. As long as it's not too peoply, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 21:53

Too peoply.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

It's too peoply. If it's too peoply, I'm out. I don't know. I don't want to. I'll be on the wall hanging out in the corner. You know, I'll be in the world.

SPEAKER_01 22:01

For 2026, people. It's two people. I can do people-ly, I just have to be prepared for the people-ly. You know, I have to be like, okay, this is gonna be people-ly, Pam, because I'm an introvert. And yeah, yeah, yeah. Same a lot of suck the energy right out of me.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

I was gonna say maybe that would be a goal for myself moving forward. It's not. I am I peep peop peopleing is hard. It's a verb. People ing is hard for me. Not hard. It's not hard. Um, it's draining, I guess I should say. And so I am definitely the person that is like, I find a spot in the room and then I wait until the room rotates around me. Because people at networking events are always working, quote unquote working the room. And so my philosophy has been how about I plant, y'all work, and then eventually I'll see you. And that's it. That's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

And that's a different approach. And I like that approach because our friend Dennis does the other approach where he does he does a figure eight. He comes in and he does a figure eight. He makes sure that everybody sees him, has has at least heard his voice. Yes. And then he's mysteriously gone and nobody saw him left, leave.

SPEAKER_02 23:11

By the time you send him a message to say, Hey, where are you?

SPEAKER_01 23:13

He's already at home at or at another event.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

Yeah. Or at another event.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Exactly. He is a master at peopling.

SPEAKER_02 23:23

Exactly. He did. Yes, that's true. That is true. The first time I experienced that, I was like, oh, I need to connect with him. And then I couldn't find him at the event. And so I sent him a text and I was like, hey, are you still here? Nope.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Already home in the bathtub with a glass of wine.

SPEAKER_02 23:44

Noted. Now I know who you are. Got it. I understand. I don't know what I was thinking, but now I understand.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

Exactly. And so I I strive to become him.

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Yes. He does it well. That would still be a lot for me. I like my strategy. I'm going to stick to it for right now until something else tells me that I needed to write away.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

We want a four-hour work week. Those events need to be a 20-minute situation of figure figure eight in and out.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

If they exist at all in my life.

SPEAKER_01 24:09

Exactly. Exactly. To be continued.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

That Tim Ferris is going to have some tips for us. We'll see. We'll report back to you all with the clip notes version of what we took away and what we actually applied, because again, it all comes back to our teachability. And that's we're not going to just simply read the book for entertainment purposes, um, which is something that I don't do. Um, but we're not gonna read the book for entertainment purposes. We're gonna tell read it, digest it, report back, and let you know what we're doing. Uh, because what's the fun if we don't have you all hold us accountable?

SPEAKER_01 24:41

Exactly. We gotta have a few hundred thousand people like keep us accountable.

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Keep me accountable. Let me know what I said I was gonna do. And then when you see me in person, just remind me.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

On January 22, check it, check it.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

I will be I will be transparent.

SPEAKER_01 24:56

Yes, and check in with us in person, January 22nd, Loveland, Colorado. That's right.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

Casa Sagrada, save the date, mark the calendar. It's a Friday. It just so happens to be the same date that we held it last year. I didn't even realize that until planning it. Yeah. Uh so January 22nd, 2027. All right. We'll put details in the show notes. Thank you all for coming back and listening. If you've not subscribed, um, feel free to do so right now on your favorite listening platform. And then if you feel that there's somebody in your life that would benefit from listening to this episode, share it with a friend. And if there's something that you all would like to hear in uh the future episodes, feel free to reach out to us as well. Podcast at reignite resilience.com and check out what's going on in our world at reignite resilience.com. Until next time, we'll see y'all soon. Have a good one.

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