Breaking Free from Limiting Beliefs with Steve Barton (part 1)

What if the biggest obstacle in your business or your life is a story someone handed you before you were old enough to question it?

In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass sit down with Steve Barton, founder of Steve Barton Coaching and creator of the Game of 10. Steve is a high-performance awareness coach, entrepreneur, and author with over 45 years of experience helping executives, entrepreneurs, and professionals move from self-doubt into clarity and decisive action.

Born with two fingers on his right hand, Steve spent his early years learning to push back against what others said he could not do. At 22, he stepped in to run his family's flower business after his father suffered a massive stroke, and grew that business from $200,000 to over $1 million. That experience became the foundation for everything he now teaches.

What you will hear in Part 1:

• Why the programming you received between birth and age 7 is still driving your decisions today
• How Steve turned a physical difference into a professional advantage and what that taught him about adversity
• Why Steve believes all beliefs are limiting beliefs, and what he means by "the truth is infinite"
• How an unexpected path through financial advising, a cocktail party conversation, and the Gestalt International Study Center led him to his life's work
• What the Game of 10 framework is built on and why Steve says every person is born at a 10

Steve's story is not about overcoming obstacles. It is about recognizing that the obstacles were never as real as the stories we attach to them.

If you are a high achiever who keeps hitting the same invisible ceiling, Part 1 of this conversation will name exactly what is in the way.

Connect with Steve Barton: stevebartoncoaching.com

The Quiet Gift: A Journey of Self Worth and Resilience is now available for download as an audible.  Check it out!

Transcript

When The Fire Runs Out

SPEAKER_00 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

A Chaotic Day And A Rescue Cat

SPEAKER_03 0:38

Welcome back to another episode of Reignite Resilience. I am your co-host, Natalie Davis, and I am so excited to be back with all of you today. And joining me, of course, is your co-host, Pam Cass. Hello, Pam. How are you?

SPEAKER_02 0:51

Hello. I was coming in a little bit hot today for today's call. I've had back-to-back calls all day, and I have a cat that's a rescue cat that is a, um, shall we say, he's afraid of everything. And when he has to go to the vet, I get anxiety because I know how hard. So I don't know if you can see my hand. Oh, this was me just trying to get him into a bathroom so that as soon as I'm done here, I can run and get him hopefully into the carrier into the appointment.

SPEAKER_03 1:23

And so I this is the damage before you have even gone to the appointment.

SPEAKER_02 1:28

This was just to try to get him into because I only have us, I have to have him there at 5:30. So we, if we ended five, I've got 30 minutes to get him across town. And so I needed to have him in a in a contained space. And it took us three of us to get him into the bathroom. And the result was my hand looks a bit like a yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:48

I'm gonna let you know he's not gonna be happy when you open that bathroom door. I'm a little nervous.

SPEAKER_02 1:53

I I may or may not have stuck a um a uh what is it, scratching post in there covered in um catnip. I don't know if that's gonna do any good. It might make it worse. I have no idea. So now I am calm and I'm I'm here in a safe space.

SPEAKER_03 2:11

Oh my gosh. Also put some ointment on that. I feel like the name's I will.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

This was like I grabbed a paper wet paper towel and ran up here to jump on the oh my gosh, the adventures.

SPEAKER_03 2:22

I've never had a cat. Um I'm sorry, I've never had an indoor cat. Only I'm a dog person, and so I don't know if that's gonna help or hinder, but I know cats like to do what they want to do, and so that you forced him in there.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Oh, may not be here next week. We shall be.

SPEAKER_03 2:41

Exactly. Oh my gosh. Well, I'm glad that you were able to join us. Um, scars and all, uh, no, really, put some whiteman on that.

Meet Steve Barton And His Mission

SPEAKER_03 2:50

And um we do have a wonderful guest that's joining us today. So I'll I will give it to you, Pam, if you can let our listeners know who's joining us today.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

Absolutely. So today we have Steve Barton. He is the founder of Steve Barton Coaching and creator of The Game of Ten, a high-performance awareness framework that helps executives, entrepreneurs, and professionals move beyond fear, self-doubt, guilt, and shame into clarity, confidence, and decisive action. With over 45 years as a successful entrepreneur, Steve grew a family business from 200,000 to 2 million before dedicating his work to helping leaders achieve greater peace of mind, stronger relationships, and meaningful success. Welcome, Steve. It's so great to have you with us today. And you have got quite the story to share that started from the time you were born.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Well, thank you, Pamela and we thank you for having me on. It's gonna, I think it's gonna be fun to get uh high energy here. I'm gonna get myself exactly I'm just amping myself up for you guys.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

Perfect. Perfect. Well, we're I mean, we know that we're a lot to handle, but most of our guests, 99.9% of them, at least they tell us that they enjoy it. So hopefully this is an enjoyable experience.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

My final white said I was too much.

SPEAKER_02 4:13

So then you're welcome here. You're amongst friends.

SPEAKER_01 4:17

I'm just enough.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

I'm just yeah, yeah.

Growing Up Different And Getting Tough

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Well, Steve, so share with us, because you were you were born um with I'm not gonna call it a disability, with just a a a difference from other people. And so how did that impact you from a very young age?

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Well, I didn't know I was different, and but I was one with two fingers in my right hand. Um, I have to give my father credit because as I as the chick kids were making fun of me, teasing me, he told me to just say they're ignorant. So at four years old, five years old, I'm saying, you're ignorant.

SPEAKER_04 4:59

Okay, perfect. Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 5:01

I didn't know what it even meant, but I had to have to have a comeback. And you know, I used to cry, and why, you know, why are they making fun of me? Why are they teasing? And just my my father's just tell them they're ignorant. I don't know. I had no idea, but it was a coping mechanism, I guess. So, you know, I just learned it from a young age that I was different, and uh and it didn't hold it helped me back in sports and stuff like that because I and also thought of that. But I finally in high school, I finally I was a manager of the football team. And when I saw these lugs going off of football, I said, I can do this too. So I did. And that was a bit that it's actually in high school when I started to become aware that I can do things physically. And plus I was in the flower business for 30 years, so uh you have to be uh dexterous in your hands, you know. So it actually was a benefit to me to be to be very I could do super detailed things with my right hand that I couldn't do with my left hand.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

So you actually find out what which sometimes it always is this way. Adversities can be your strengths, and this is what I help people do. So yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

I love it.

SPEAKER_03 6:13

Oh my goodness. Well, Steve, you said that uh you started to take us down this path. Like in high school is when you realized that these that you actually had strengths that you may have thought of at different abilities as not being a strength, right? It was it was something that was differentiating you. What was that transition and the empowerment that came from that? What did that look like for you, especially in high school?

SPEAKER_01 6:35

I think in high school I realized that what I was told I wasn't gonna be good at. I started believing that I could just because I'm told this stuff, it doesn't mean it has to be that way. And I was always told I wasn't good in math, and I was an average student. And I'm and what we're told as a young child, we believe. Yeah. And we carry it through. I mean, a lot of people carry it through until they die, until the 60s and 70s, 80s and death. It's they don't realize just because you're told something, it doesn't mean it's who you are.

SPEAKER_04 7:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:09

And at the age, I think um there's a person out there on the um internet that talks about um from the ages of where the Jesuit says, give me a child at at zero to seven, I'll give you the man. And we are in that state of data hypnosis that everything we're told we believe. And I think we spend the rest of our likes undoing these beliefs.

SPEAKER_02 7:37

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

And that's what I that's what I figured out how to do. And that's what I love doing. I love doing limiting, I love unlimiting limited beliefs.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

Yeah. So so you were able to do that in high school because you had been told you're not good at sports.

SPEAKER_01 7:53

So what was the thing that was like I still wasn't good at sports, but I did it.

SPEAKER_02 7:58

But you did it, but you did it. So you challenged a belief that had been planted, that seed that had been planted, that and and we know that those beliefs are really entrenched in us, and a lot of times that's just it is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

But something was something that shifted for you.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Yeah, sure. I mean, I even with my hand, I've had to I was good at art. You know, I was good at these things. I was really good at certain things. I just had to develop what am I good at? How what can I do that I'm I can develop that I can be good at? Um I wasn't good at dribbling a basketball with my uh but you know, once now that I think of it, it probably could be. I don't know. So I just don't I just don't believe in limiting beliefs. I don't believe in a lot of things. So I I think mo uh all beliefs tend to be limiting beliefs because the truth is infinite. And when we have a belief, it has to, even if it's a big belief, then it's even that is limited in an unlimited world and universe.

SPEAKER_04 8:55

So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:57

I think that's embracing that understanding that there are infinite possibilities um and options and uh anything outside of that, like you said, if it's a belief system that we have, there's a cap on that to some degree in terms of how much we can and or cannot accomplish or do. And if if we truly embrace the infinite possibilities concept in every area of our life, then I don't know, I haven't tried it yet. Uh let me let me give it some practice and we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Hopefully, hopefully by the end of this, I'll give you some tools to uh teach you some game of ten versus versus the game often played. And the game often played is filled with thoughts and limiting beliefs.

SPEAKER_02 9:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

The game of ten is infinite. And so uh hopefully we can talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

Oh, we definitely gonna go.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Well, Steve, before you started this or created this framework, you mentioned that you were in the flower business for multiple decades.

Taking Over The Flower Shop At 22

SPEAKER_03 9:54

Uh talk to us about this. Was this a passion? Was this something that excited you? How did you get into the industry?

SPEAKER_01 10:00

Well, uh by the when I was in my fourth grade project was to create a floral design for my class in front of my class. So my father had just got the flower shop, uh, started it, and there was a time before soap flowers, there were plastic flowers.

SPEAKER_04 10:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

So I made a floral arrangement that uh in front of my fourth grade class, that was my thing. I put it together. So I always knew and I always worked at the flower shop. It was like daycare for us. You know, we grew up in the flower shop, we worked in the flower shop. I used to make course dive boxes at two cents a piece. And I'd make a hundred of them, so I'd get two dollars. So you know, yeah. So I learned young to be an entrepreneur, and I always wanted to go into the flower business because it was there and I knew it. And but I really had a difficult time working with my father. Okay. It wasn't big enough for the two of us. So I went to uh after high school, I went to college at in Portland, Maine, here, University of Maine in Portland, and got my business administration bachelor's in that and worked in the flower shop that summer, but knew I didn't want to go in, I was bartending around town and did that. And I didn't really want to go into business with him because it wasn't big enough for me to get in to draw enough to for me to be happy there. So I was on my way to Europe to study floral design, and it was in Germany, and um Amsterdam was where it was happening. So I I wanted to really get that feel for that. And my we were in FTD and my father and mother at an FTD convention, and I get a call from um them that they were in Kansas City, Missouri, and my father had a full blood stroke.

unknown 11:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

His whole right side of his body was one side of his body was completely paralyzed, came home in a wheelchair, and they said, Don't go. I was had a one-way ticket three days before I was leaving. He said, Don't leave, you need to run the flower shop.

SPEAKER_04 12:08

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

So I was 22 years old and running the business. I think the youngest employee next to me was 40.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

Oh wow. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Yeah, so a 23-year-old started to be the boss, and that was a whole experience in around 19 um 80 that I took care of. And uh yeah, so I knew enough about the business to and I knew I knew enough to know that I knew I had to learn a lot. So it was great. It was a good experience, and we grew the flower shop from 200,000 to 2 million, and that was a whole process that I loved that and learned to grow from that. And in retail flower business, I was doing weddings and funerals and birthdays and anniversaries and proms and and all that. So you learned psychology pretty quickly. And you learn about people and uh it was good. I got out I got out liking it, wasn't loving it after 30 years, and it was a great time to get out still liking it.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Wow. So at 22, you are thrown into the trenches of here, now you get to run a business that you had no thought that you were gonna do, obviously.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

I you know, I'm I was not happy that my father had a stroke, but then again, if I was happy that I could run the business without so that was it was bittersweet. So um and it was good. I really that was where I got a lot of my business background. And I love I just love business. I love psychology, I love people. It just I just like it.

SPEAKER_02 13:51

Okay, so 30 years, and then all of a sudden you decide to walk away.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Yeah, well, I was married into one of the wealthiest families in Maine, so that that didn't hurt.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

It wasn't just that's a benefit. And my mother-in-law was giving us so much money, I I'd be crazy to work. Because I had a couple apartment buildings, rented the flower shops building. I was making more money, okay, having more money than I did at my peak. So it made no sense to work, you know. And uh and my and for 30 years my father was consistently the way he was. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:34

And he cut he came back from he is good.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

You he is who he is.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

You knew what you're gonna get, and he came back about 95% from his stroke. He was he just was determined, you know. He was he was a fighter, and a fighter is good in many ways and not good in many ways too. You know what I'm saying? So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

So it was uh it was good time to get out. Uh after that, I retired for about a year and a half, and I'm not a I'll never retire. I just yeah, it's not in my blood. I worked from the time I was 14 at a restaurant. I had to get a permit to to get to work in a local restaurant. They said they hired me. So I had to get a yeah. And so I just love to work, and I just can't imagine not doing it. So I did that for did nothing for about a year and a half, and um then I got my financial advisor's licenses.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

And thinking, I'm gonna do at fifty fifty uh two years old, I'm gonna do that. And so I loved, I got all my series, I got my 766 and main state insurance licenses, did it for about a year, and I was like, I don't want to do this. It was like I wanted to know how to handle money.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

Because I was in a situation where I want to know what's going on. I don't want to do it, but I want to know what's going on. And did that for about a year, and then I was at a cocktail party for a benefit.

From Retirement To Coaching And Training

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Patrick Dempsey's from Maine. And so his sister and mother, uh his mother died of cancer, so his sister here from Maine um put on a thing. And a woman there was talking about uh becoming a coach. And she talked about the Gestalt International Studies Center. And I said, that's what I want to do. Because I was doing it during that year and a half anyway, informally, not really having a process, not really but I knew enough to not know. But I wanted to get some formal training to have it behind me. And that was in 2000 um I don't know, 2012 maybe. And uh so I did went there, no, it was 2000 yeah, f 15. I went to the Gestalt International Studies Center. And that was probably really great. I knew but you f I found my groove. I found my people, I found the people that um got me.

SPEAKER_04 16:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:58

They were into personal development. And uh yeah, so that from then on it's been doing this.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

Okay. Okay. Well, tell

The Game Of Ten Framework

SPEAKER_02 17:08

us about the system that you created.

SPEAKER_01 17:11

All right. So I I call it the game of ten.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

Okay. And it g it's based on the premise or the assumption that we are all here and appointed ten from the time we're born. And as through life's little bit or big disappointments that we get tri put down.

SPEAKER_04 17:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Make sense? So something saying no to someone that something you really wanted, there's a disappointment. Being trauma traumatized, having severe trauma consistently can get you to a level of one, two, and three, and you just can't get out of it. These are traumatic, you know, post-traumatic stresses, um abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse, sexual abuse, they can really damage somebody's mind and body. You know, we think that we can he uh uh damage our soul, but we can't. That's pure always. It's always ten. So when someone says, I need to heal my soul, I say, honey, this your soul's fine. It's just waiting for you to come back. Okay? It's ready for you to align so it's your mind that has to be healed. When your mind's healed, your body becomes healed. And when your body and mind are heal, you can go into alignment with 10.

SPEAKER_04 18:43

Okay.

unknown 18:44

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

So uh healing comes through forgiveness. You know, we think of that that forgiveness as something you do at church and something you do religion, but it it's you can. You can do it anywhere. But I've so I've learned how how to forgive. I I worked with Marion Wimpson actually. So 33 years ago I started reading a Course in Miracles and went to therapy. And that's when my whole mental health happened. And it happened very quickly. And it was I had an out-of-body experience, went to therapy, had an out-of-body experience, was channeling, uh, was doing everything. It got to uh I got on a high, couldn't come down for for about a month and a half, and it took me about probably three to six months to assimilate. How do I assimilate my knowing and knowledge and awareness to fit into a normal my family society?

SPEAKER_03 19:47

Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Yeah, so it's kind of like be careful what you ask for because you didn't know. How do you how do you act normal when you g become natural? That's tough for those people out there who don't have, and I didn't know who to ask, and I was asking the wrong people. And they were thinking, Steve's gone crazy. You know, Steve. Yeah. So now I I I now I know who my people are pretty quickly. And I think you're two of my people and your audience.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

You know, so it's kind of you learn who to share your wisdom with and you learn just to say, yeah, it's a crappy day. Hope you have a better one, you know, and move on, you know.

unknown 20:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

Steve, that has to be a challenging place to be in when you are the like truly in alignment, right? When you reach that the the 10, like you talk about, and then settling back into like the mundane, it is experiential, but the mundane things of life, right? Like it's oh, I'm sitting in traffic. But bigger picture is there's so much more. That's there's so much more, and life is so much richer than we think about on an ongoing basis. And then when you're able to witness and observe those things, who do you talk to? Who do you get to bring that to?

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Yeah. Yeah, it's yeah. Now it's like I'm always happy. And for 33 years, I've always there's one commitment I have, and that is to my happiness. Nothing can touch it. You know, when people say, you know, you're not gonna be happy when I tell you this, I said, Yeah, I will be. What you got? What you got? That has nothing that has nothing to do with my happiness. This is a situation that happens. Yeah, so I think we one of the things that I coach my clients with is we have thoughts, we have feelings, we have emotions, we have a mind, we have a body, we have an ego slash identity. That's not who we are. Yeah, it's they these are all tools in our toolbox to develop and to use and to grow. Grow them, you can be a better uh communicator, you can be a better partner, you can be a better employee, you can be a better boss, you're a better leader, you can be all these things better, but you can't be a better 10. Your being is perfect. Yeah so what you want to do is know that whatever you're doing at whatever level of your skill of thinking, doing, and having, it's always enough.

A Simple Practice To Quiet The Mind

SPEAKER_01 22:32

And the game, let's so do you wanna guys want to play the game of ten with me?

SPEAKER_04 22:37

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 22:38

Okay. It's fun. Okay. It's easy. So repeat after me. Ten is your highest level of awareness, okay? Okay. Ten is the divine being that we all are. Uh special, not special. We're all gods, goddesses. Special, not special. You got you're not an eleven and you're not a nine, okay? You're a ten.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

And so is everyone else. The key is in life is to become aligned and aware of it.

unknown 23:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 23:07

And that is the growth that we do from the game often played to get to the game of ten. Okay. All right. I am ten.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

I am ten. I am ten.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Uh I'd like to have a little more enthusiasm.

SPEAKER_03 23:21

I am ten.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Yes, we are. Uh we're doing the best that we can with the awareness that we have.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

We're doing the best that we can with the awareness we have.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

We're always right with the awareness that we have.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

We're always right with the awareness we have.

SPEAKER_01 23:41

We are enough.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

We are enough.

SPEAKER_03 23:43

We are enough.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

We do enough.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

We do enough.

SPEAKER_04 23:46

We do enough.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

And we have enough.

SPEAKER_02 23:48

We have enough.

SPEAKER_04 23:48

And we have enough.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

Those six statements shut off that chatterbox mind that we have. It's in meditation that you can do throughout the day to clear your mind. Awareness is without thought. People freak out. What do you mean you without thought? I say, what do you want to do? Think or do you want to know? I want to know. Okay. You down then you download from no thought, you become a clear channel to common sense. Our sixth sense.

SPEAKER_04 24:35

The sense we all have in common. So we download ideas we turn them into thoughts.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

Thoughts are neutral. Then we give it a positive and negative charge and we do do something with those thoughts. Or don't we have to create, we need to recreate, we need to play. So this is who we are. We're intentional, intuitive, spiritual, or energetic beings having a physical experience. That's it. What do you can do with it? Yeah.

unknown 25:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

You know? So it seems great, but we have one thing. We have an ego that's here to it's you know, you hear about how bad the ego is, the devil within. It's there to protect you, to keep you in your physical body. So it's not good or bad, it's just a tool.

SPEAKER_03 25:28

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

So yeah, so um it's who we think we are. It's it's it holds on to all our thoughts, feelings, and emotions and beliefs. And if those beliefs serve you, keep them. If they don't serve you, I will teach you how to let them go. So I was taught by I took uh in 2000, during COVID, I took a course, miracle-minded coaching. I've first I took it at the Gestalt International Studies Center, and in 2021, I think it was, or 20, it was um, I took Miracle-minded coaching with Marianne Williamson. She was grounded, you guys know who she is, yeah. So I took a course with her, and she was hired by um Difference Press. And I always wanted to write my book, The Game of Ten, because it was in my mind all the time. I just want I want to get that crap out. I want to just get it out and get it on paper, get it on, and uh so took the miracle-minded coaching, been a student for 30 years, finished the course in a month, three-month course. So I saw on Facebook, oh, write a book. Same company, sponsoring her.

Writing The Book With His Son

SPEAKER_01 26:40

And so I applied to write a book. I'm gonna write my game of 10 book. So I get a call from the owner, and she says, Steve, you're in the pile of on my desk and we don't know what to do with you. I said, Well, welcome to my world. Okay, welcome to my world. And uh she goes, You want to write a book and you're taking the miracle-minded coaching too? I said, Yeah. She goes, I finished all the homework. We know, or I wouldn't be on the phone with you. So I said, all I can do is show up for an hour and a half on uh this day. And uh so we started writing the book, and so that was so she goes, What's the name of your book? I said, It's The Game of Ten. She says, Nobody's gonna buy it. So I said, Okay. And they'll let her simmer for about 30 seconds. And don't you want to know why? I said, No. She goes, Well, I'll tell you why. I said, Okay. I just love playing. You know, I'm gonna play with you. I'm gonna play with you.

SPEAKER_04 27:55

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

Yeah. So she goes, I'm gonna tell you why. She says, You're not Beyonce. I said, Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:04

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 28:06

No surprises.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

Yeah, shocking. Many reasons. Many reasons. And so she says, if you were Beyonce and you wrote the game of ten books, every it would be a New York Times bestseller, blah, blah, blah. She goes, What else you got? And I said, I'm writing it with my 18-year-old son. Oh, a parenting book. I can sell that. I can sell that all day long. So basically, the game, uh, the father, the son, and the aha moment is a Trojan horse to get the Game of Ten process out there and used for parenting. I mean, the Game of Ten is all about common sense, respect, unconditioned love in parenting, in in business, in it's kind of like chicken soup for the soul for the chiropractor. You see, you know, you know, chicken soup, you know, you can. So I've registered the process and and I'm in the process of writing, actually now writing the game of ten book. So I don't know when that's going to come up, but probably the next six months.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

Yeah, congratulations. That's exciting.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

But the best thing was I did get to do a father-son project that very few. I have one child. I had my son Spencer when I was 45. Never thought I'd have a child. And so he's great and uh really good person, and we talk uh every day or every other day. He lives in about six miles from me. So I get to write that book and uh and get to meet Marianne Williamson. I didn't when I was doing the um uh coaching, there was 175 people, and you had to write a question in and so forth. But but then when I did the uh writing the book, there were only 20 of us writing authors.

SPEAKER_04 29:53

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

And every Wednesday afternoon at four, we had Incubator Church with Marianne Williamson. So I was on a Zoom call with there was typically 12 people on the call. And I was the only white, old white boomer in the whole group, and they were all women every women of different races, different nationalities, and they were all gonna change the world. And here's the one one white boomer who was the cause of all the problems. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:24

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Yeah, it was during time before you know when when woke was really woke.

SPEAKER_04 30:31

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

We were targeted, you know. It was never a victim, but you know, we were targeted.

SPEAKER_04 30:39

Yeah.

Aha Moments And Closing Requests

SPEAKER_00 30:44

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