From Invisible to Seen: Launching The Quiet Gift and the Red Journal Series

We share the messy, honest journey from podcast to book series and why The Quiet Gift exists: to turn quiet struggles into usable wisdom and help people feel seen. We talk dyslexia, shame, resilience, and how leaders and parents can support neurodiversity with simple, human choices.

• scrapping the first 64 pages to find the right form
• choosing a fable with journal prompts for reflection
• the red journal motif and series continuity
• dyslexia as a quiet gift and source of resilience
• the shame of feeling invisible and how to name it
• leading neurodiverse teams with empathy and clarity
• memory, edits, and telling vulnerable stories well
• audiobook plans, timelines, and what’s next in the series

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Chapters

• 0:00 Friday Energy And False Starts
• 2:35 Pivoting From Podcast To Book
• 5:10 Why The First Book Didn’t Fit
• 8:15 Discovering The Fable Format
• 11:00 The Quiet Gift: Themes And Design
• 14:30 Dyslexia, Shame, And Resilience
• 18:20 Leading And Supporting Neurodiversity
• 22:32 Memory, Vulnerability, And Craft
• 25:42 Series Roadmap And Audiobook Plans
• 29:02 Stocking Stuffers, Community, And CTAs

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:01

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

SPEAKER_01: 0:32

Welcome back to another episode of Reignite Resilience. I'm your co-host Natalie Davis, and I'm so excited to be back with all of you today. And joining me, of course, is our public co-host, Pam Cass. Hello, Pam. How are you?

SPEAKER_02: 0:44

Hello, I am fabulous. It is Friday, and this has been a week where there were, I feel like there were four Mondays.

SPEAKER_01: 0:51

Oh my gosh. I don't know what it was. I don't want to give Monday a hard time because I like Mondays. I do too, usually. I like Mondays. We there was a day this week. Well, it would have been Thursday this week, which I didn't know that it was Thursday. And I woke up and I ever whenever we have a new episode that drops, I get a notification that says your episode has um dropped and it's live and it's ready to go. And I woke up and I got that notification on my phone and I had this moment of anxiety, and I was like, oh crap, I've messed up. Why did I put the episode on the wrong day? And so I'm like frantically trying to log in to pull the episode down because in my mind it was Wednesday. Not Wednesday, it was Wednesday. In my mind it was Wednesday. Yes. Thank you for that. In my mind it was Wednesday. And as soon as I like swiped in to like open my phone to do the adjustments, it like tells me it's like, happy Thursday. Today is the depth. I'm like, oh like, oh, I missed a whole day. And then it turned into a whole nother moment of anxiety because I was like, crap, I've got so much to do before Friday. Oh my God. This has been one of those weeks.

SPEAKER_02: 1:57

It's been just one of those weeks where I'm like, God, are we there yet? Like, come on. So I am grateful. This is like my last thing on my schedule for today, work-wise. Yes. Because I've been on calls all day today. So I am so grateful that this is this is the end. And it's gonna be fantastic.

SPEAKER_01: 2:16

Yes. So just for the listeners, as you know, as we're recording this, uh, you're the only thing that stands between us and the weekend. So there we go.

SPEAKER_02: 2:24

No pressure at all.

SPEAKER_01: 2:26

Exactly. No, I'm happy that you're here. Please stay. We want you to stay in the world. Yes, we want you to stay. We want you to stay.

SPEAKER_02: 2:32

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01: 2:33

Oh my goodness. Well, I am we don't have a guest joining us today, and I'm really excited because we have a lot of things that we've been working on behind the scenes. Um and I think we want to talk about one of those projects that's come to um, I don't know what do we say. Like I say it's like a labor of love, so I don't want to say that it's born. Uh, one project that is officially born and and and crawling well, I think. We've had some great feedback and great response. Um and that's our book. So our book is officially launched. It is available on Amazon. It is called The Quiet Gift. Um, it is part of the Red Journal series, and uh it's part of Pam's story. So Pam, why don't we we talk about the book a little bit?

SPEAKER_02: 3:20

Absolutely. Well, here's what's um what's funny is when we first met with the the our writing coach, and she's like, Well, what's your goal for the book? And I said, end of 2025, Natalie's like March. And I'm like, what? Like three months? I'm like, I'd had a coronary. Um, so we're we met right in the middle. So we're not at the end of the year, we're not in March, but we're we're kind of right in the middle.

SPEAKER_01: 3:47

And well, that was like my thinking. I was like, oh, how long could it possibly take to one of them? Four months, five months? We can do it. No, it was six months. That was six months when we had this meeting. And I was like, we can get this done in six months. There's two of us, we can write a book in six months.

SPEAKER_02: 4:02

It's a peasy, no, no problem at all. Uh no, there's so much to go into it that I just, you know, like the the editing, the formatting, the cover, the back cover, the side, like all the things that you just don't think about. And then all the approvals and getting it onto Amazon and getting Amazon to approve it and pricing and blah blah, all the things that you just don't even think about.

SPEAKER_01: 4:27

It's an entire business in itself. Like just the process of writing and launching a book is the same as like starting a small business. Um, because you have to think about all of those elements. And we we did it. We I did, and I was like, you would just want me to. I've got a lot of ideas in my brain. I'm gonna put those ideas on paper. You print it, we sell it, bada bing, bada boom, here we go. Six months later.

SPEAKER_02: 4:50

Easy, no big deal. Well, I mean, we did start a podcast in like five months.

SPEAKER_01: 4:56

Yes, exactly. Exactly. So that's I mean, like history has given me the support I need to believe. Absolutely.

unknown: 5:04

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01: 5:06

Maybe if we both didn't other have you know five other jobs that other jobs, in addition to having other careers that we actually run as well. Yeah, so not just. I think that's it. I think well, I mean, if we go back, because it would have been a year ago now that we actually started this journey. Um, just where we started to explore, like, okay, we're going to write a book. What does that look like? What do we want to write about? What do we want to share? And um, the journey actually started by uh us thinking, okay, why don't we share the stories of the amazing guests that we've had on the show? Yeah. Because we have had phenomenal guests on the show over the last couple of years. And it's been nice to just learn from them, to grow from them. I've personally applied so many of the things that I've learned to my own personal life and seeing my growth and expansion. And so we thought, why don't we just encapsulate that into a book and bring that to our listeners? And for potential people that don't listen, um, they can learn more about, you know, insert the topic money, relationships, career, um, any type of different abilities, um, any, you know, uh chronic or um uh illnesses that have popped up, like health issues, wellness. We've talked about all of it, right? We've touched on all the things. Um we were gonna make it a book. And we went down that path.

SPEAKER_02: 6:22

We did. We got 64 pages in. Yeah. Not that I'm counting, but we did.

SPEAKER_01: 6:31

And to some that may not sound like a lot, but it was a lot.

unknown: 6:36

A lot.

SPEAKER_02: 6:37

I think if most people that don't write, it it's a lot. Like I hear 64 and I'm like, that's a lot of pages.

SPEAKER_01: 6:42

Absolutely. Well, and I think it was also the um research and back end that went into it, right? Because we we wanted to highlight and showcase the stories of our guest. And so it's a matter of filtering out, okay, well, who are we featuring and what are we talking about? And what were those, you know, those golden nuggets that we really wanted to share? And so uh we had not only the outline, um not only the idea, I should say, the outline, um, the concept, and we started the writing process of um filling that in. And and Pammy, you and I like tag teamed it. It was like, okay, well, I'm gonna write about this and and you write about that, and and here we go. Yeah. Yeah, it's six or four pages later.

SPEAKER_02: 7:22

Yeah, and then and then I stalled. You know, I'll speak for myself. I like just came to this, I hit a wall where I was like, it just didn't feel I wasn't it it didn't feel, I don't know. Um, I don't know, when you I think about writing a book, it's like I want it to feel like, oh my gosh, like this is like this is my baby. Yeah, and it just didn't feel like that. And I think it was because we were sharing other people's stories, and I was like, okay, and so we did we just kind of paused, and it was then I got, and I ever I believe in the universe working, I got a book from one of my coaching clients called The Energy Bus, and just a small hardback book. And I'm an audible person, like I like to listen. Well, I couldn't find it on Audible, so I'm like, great, I'm gonna have to read it. And um, so I just read a little bit every night, and it was written like a story, but it had a message, and so that's why I called Natalie, and it was last December. I think you uh I think you were literally heading out of town the next day. And I said, Yes, I have I just finished this book. I was like, what do you think about scrapping um our the book we've written so far, what we've done so far, the 64 pages, and we start from scratch and we do a series of books because the energy bus is a series. So we do this series of books, and each book is just a its own standalone kind of story-ish. And you were like, I don't know how to do that.

SPEAKER_01: 8:52

I was like, I was like, not only do I not have to know how to do it, I hadn't read the book yet, and so I was like, Well, I'm coming over to grab the book, and like I immediately went to your house. I was like, I need the book, I need to pick it up, I need to read it. And and I was, I was leaving town the next day to go on vacation and went on vacation for two weeks um and brought the book with me. And it was perfect because then I was able to read it. And by the time I came back, you had already put pen to paper, you know, from idea it went pen to paper, and you're like, here's what would come up with.

SPEAKER_02: 9:22

Yeah. And I just I said, why don't we, why don't I just put a get a stab at it and see if it flows? And um, so I just started with my story from, you know, as young as I can remember and through college. And I wanted to make it a little bit different because the energy bus has like fictional characters in it, and there's a bus and a bus driver, and blah, blah. And so I wanted to do a little bit, a little bit of a spin on it. And so um, there is a fictional character in there called Sam, and Sam is kind of like your inner voice, that voice that shows up, but it's the the good inner voice. It's not the Dr. Evil pork shop, it's actually the good inner voice. And he shows up when the main character, Emily, is in need of him being there with his wisdom. And then there was a he gives her a journal, like a tattered old red journal at the very beginning of the story. And the journal disappears and shows up, and it shows up when she's at this place where usually Sam has come, shown up, asked her a question, and then the journal shows up and it's got that question in the journal, and then she's able to kind of do a journal prompt about it. So she's basically writes in the journal. And so it's a little bit of fiction, a little bit of magic. Um, it's mostly my story though. Um, and what I I was so excited about it, you know, getting the cover and and getting it on Amazon, and then it was live, and then I was like, oh god, like people are gonna read this. What if nobody likes it? What the hell? Oh my god. And there was this like literally like visceral panic this last week because we were reaching out to people and I was like, oh my God, what if they hate it?

SPEAKER_01: 11:09

Which is a whole different side of the business. Like, right, I talked about the business side part of it, right? Like in my mind, again, I was the person that said, we can knock this out in six months, we can get it done. So, like going through writing the book, and again, here we go. It is another multi-month process, but you you're right, like it's getting the cover and approving the cover, and it's you're starting with a blank canvas. And so going through that process of finding a cover that actually it goes against the whole saying, right? Like, you can't judge a book by its cover. It's like, no, we want you to judge the whole book by the cover. Like, that's exactly how you go into that meeting. And I need you to judge the book from the cover and pick it up and buy it and read it, add to cart, purchase, done, right? And so when you're starting with an absolute blank canvas, it's like, okay, well, hold on, this is my whole story, and I need one image to uh really capture the essence of everything that's covered in the book. And I think, I mean, I think it's it what we chose works really, really well. Um but you're right, like that that journal carries through the entire story, and so we've carried that to the cover of the book.

SPEAKER_02: 12:14

And so we've we've made it part of a series, and so the red journal series, which we were just chatting before we came on that where I'm gonna start working on um prompts because we want to make a red journal that people can order and have as a companion to the books or just as you know, just a standalone. And every day you'll have a new prompt that you can sit in quiet, whatever, you know, outside, wherever your space is that um you hold, just be quiet and you can just write. And hopefully it'll uncover some things because what I what I found with writing this book was I would be doing something, and then I'm like, oh my gosh, I totally forgot about that. And then I'd be like, Oh, I need to add a chapter, or I'd write something. I was like, oh no, actually that's not how it happened, it it was this, and so I kept changing. And I think it I think after the first edit, I think I added a couple of chapters. I was like, Oh, I added two more chapters, and I was like, because I remembered things, and even now I'm like, Oh, I didn't put that in there, I should have totally put that in there, so all sorts of different um thoughts with it, but yeah, it's very vulnerable and scary to put that out there. A hundred percent and yeah, a hundred percent, right?

SPEAKER_01: 13:31

That's the process. I mean, just going through the process of writing the book, I think that's one thing. Um like years ago ago, I I went through a writing retreat. I think I've shared that with the listeners previously, and uh ended up writing a book and going same thing, going through edits and and getting the feedback of you know, you need more character development here, and and it was my own personal story. And it's like I went through those first round of edits and I was like, what do you mean? I need character development. She is who she is, it's me. Yeah, this is me. And so it's it's like may allowing other people to see like your innermost everything, right? And and then for them to critique it, because that just my story on paper does not turn into a best-selling novel, right? It's it's you've got to actually there's some components and elements of a book that it needs to have. Yeah, who knew to do all. Um but you're right, it's the vulnerability piece of it. Like it's it's putting yourself out there, especially when it's your story, but it's also like I think it goes what I I love and I think is really unique is that it's not just your story, but it's also a tool for people, right? It's it's um it's not necessarily a guide, but it definitely is uh written in a way that causes you or allows you to pause and reflect and think, you know what, that yeah, I've had those moments in my life, or I've felt those feelings or emotions or or lack thereof in my life, and and um and addressing like how did you respond? How did you show up? And could you have responded differently if there was someone there, someone there to support you?

SPEAKER_02: 15:04

Absolutely. Yeah, it's the outreach I've gotten from people that have started to read it um has been really cool because it's you know, oh my gosh, I have a child that has uh dyslexia or um has ADHD or or whatever that neurodivergent um is with their their child, or gosh, I wish I had known this. And because it's from my point of view as a child with dyslexia, feeling very much completely invisible and what that childhood looked like. And if you are a parent and you have a child with some sort of uh, and I don't call it a disability, I think it's a gift. It's literally literally is a quiet gift. Um, it's just we just do things a little bit differently, but it can be very lonely because there's a lot of shame that is attached to it and makes you want to pretend like it doesn't exist. And, you know, we were talking before we got on, you know, as I did research about dyslexia, there's certain things people with dyslexia tend to be very resilient because they've had to be. They've had to adjust the way they read, the way they interact with people, communicate, their entire lives. So it makes them very resilient. Something bad happens, they figure out a way to move through it. I was like, okay, that checks. Yep. Um, tend to overwork. So they will work twice as hard at jobs because they feel like they need to prove their worth because in their minds they're they're not enough and they need to do better. Like, well, check. You know, I even had issues at jobs where co-workers and bosses felt like I was trying to outwork other or them. And it's like that was not the case, but I didn't know that. That was just that's just how I'm wired because of it. Um, tend to be more empathetic with people because we understand what that that feels like. Um, so this book is not just about the dyslexia. I think it's more about feeling invisible and not being seen, not feeling like you're seen. And I think it's because when you do have some of these quiet gifts, you do shrink because you are ashamed and you don't want people to know. And I went for years thinking I cured myself of dyslexia. And it wasn't until I did a presentation on dyslexia, I'm like, oh, can you can I be cured? Because I don't think I have it anymore. And they're like, oh no, no, you actually do.

SPEAKER_01: 17:34

No, you just shoved it so far under the rug that you're like, it doesn't exist. I don't see it. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 17:40

But if I yeah, but if I had embraced it, then I could have known how to communicate that to other people. Like, this is what I'm really good at, and these are the things that I really struggle at these. So I need support or I can find support to help me in those areas. And we were talking before we got on. I think that's why we work well together because you have talents that I can't even I love that just gives me anxiety. I get so I mean, what did I I sent you a text message this week? I need help.

SPEAKER_01: 18:08

Oh, you did, and I was like, Oh my, something, yeah, because you never send that message, and I'm like, oh, something is on fire and the sky is falling. Yes.

SPEAKER_02: 18:17

And I'm so overwhelmed about something, and you just got on and just calmly boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, and it was fine. I was like, it just when I get overwhelm overstimulated, overwhelmed, I just like panic. Yeah. And that's just knowing that about myself. And so then I think about, you know, the things about that made me a good leader were some of those things because I could be empathetic. I did understand other people's differences. I was able to do that, I could connect with people pretty well. Um, but I also recognize now the challenges, the struggles, the places that, gosh, if I had known that, I could have done things differently. So are there and what one in five people have something? Either dyslexia, ADHD, autism, some somewhere on the spectrum. So either you have it or you are probably leading or managing somebody that has it. And how can you tap into their gifts that they have? Right. And understand it. And it doesn't mean you have to lead differently for everybody, but gosh, if you could tap into it, that would be a powerful team.

SPEAKER_01: 19:21

A hundred percent.

unknown: 19:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 19:22

Well, and I think the leading and the supporting piece, right? Because not only from the employment standpoint, like if it's if it's one in five, it's like someone in your household, someone in your close friend circles, someone in your family. Um, there are people that have uh some type of different ability. And it's not a matter of, okay, well, we've got to adjust or change everything that we're doing, but how can we be more supportive? How can we be more empathetic? I think that's the piece is that if we don't have a different ability, there is an opportunity for us to create an equitable space for individuals with different abilities, right? And so that's uh I think those are the missed opportunities. Um the book does talk about that or dives into that portion of your story a little bit. And so that's I I think those are the things that we as parents, as friends, as colleagues, we think, gosh, I I probably could have handled that a little bit differently, or I could have worked harder to create a safer space, or a s a space that sets everyone else for uh, you know, everyone else for success. Um but we don't we don't think about that a lot.

SPEAKER_02: 20:25

We don't, and we don't, and I didn't, I didn't for years. And you know, and I didn't I wanted to pretend like oh no, I don't, I don't nothing. But the amount of people that I've since I've done since this has come out that have called me and said, Oh my gosh, I have dyslexia. And I'm like, no idea, didn't know.

SPEAKER_01: 20:42

Yeah, um exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 20:43

And so that's it's yeah, it's been very eye-opening. And so it's it's very vulnerable and it is scary. But um I I wanted to leave some kind of a legacy for my kids, and and I hope my kids read it. I don't know if they will, but I hope they do.

SPEAKER_01: 21:02

Um so that they canerate it.

SPEAKER_02: 21:06

Yeah, I'll beterate it. Um, have maybe a little insight, and I think that there'll be a lot of people that um can relate to Emily's story, even if you did not have, even if you do not have uh dyslexia or ADHD or or anything.

SPEAKER_01: 21:22

A hundred percent. So I love it. Oh my gosh, what's the biggest thing that you learned uh coming out of writing this book?

SPEAKER_02: 22:25

Oh gosh, what's the biggest thing I learned? How much I enjoyed doing it. Oh I didn't think I I was like, I have dyslexia. I can't write a book. What are you talking about? So um and I loved uh the memory piece of it, you know, going back and like remembering certain things. Like the first chapter is probably one of my favorites because it's it was literally just remembering my childhood when we lived back in outside of Boston and the hours that we'd my brother and I would be gone during the day playing in the woods and and exploring and that type of stuff. So it literally put me back in that space for for that brief moment, which was was really fun. It was because you you forget a lot. We forget a lot of our childhood until we start to really write about it, and then you're like, oh shoot, I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_01: 23:14

I think just writing about it and giving yourself time to even sit sit with it, right? To go back into those spaces. I don't I don't know if just the average person creates that for themselves, right? Like it's writing about it, I think, is a like a step up. Like you just take a moment and pause and think about it. Um the good, the bad, the ugly, and and the indifferent, right? You think about all of it and then it comes together because it's it's it's what has made us who we are, right? Like it's who we are. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's interesting. So you've unlocked a whole new thing that you enjoy in in writing. That's I I feel like that's a that's a common uh theme that we hear with our authors that come on, at least those that come on the show and uh those that we listen to um just as we're preparing and things that once they write a book, they're like, Yep, now that we've done the heavy lifting, I can do it again. And not only can I do it again, but I have to because I've got another total part of the story to share, or there's something else that needs to be released.

SPEAKER_02: 24:14

Yep. Yep, absolutely. And then I'm just like, oh, maybe it'll be a maybe it'll be a TV series or something. I'm like, who would play Emily?

SPEAKER_01: 24:23

Oh, there we go. I love it.

SPEAKER_02: 24:25

Who would play Sam? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 24:27

It's just I I love that you go there because I'm like, who's gonna write the screenplay?

SPEAKER_02: 24:32

That's that's not my problem. That I don't know. That I don't know how to write a screenplay.

SPEAKER_01: 24:39

This is this is as Pam talks about like how we work together, that's exactly how it works. And she's like this is how it works. And I'm like, who's gonna put the screenplay together?

SPEAKER_02: 24:47

That's I just have the little idea, and then Natalie's like, wait a minute, we gotta think about X, Y, Z and execution. I'm like let's execute it. I don't want to think about that.

SPEAKER_01: 24:57

Awesome. That would be awesome, absolutely. Who would okay? So who would you have as your as your character?

SPEAKER_02: 25:03

I don't know. As a young child, I don't know. I don't I I don't even have cable TV anymore, so I don't even know what who the young actresses are anymore. So is that a thing?

SPEAKER_01: 25:12

I don't I'm sure it is. I'm sure there are young people that are oh I'm sure there are in the world acting. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02: 25:19

Well, we just have to do a what what do they do? They do a screen call where they're casting a casting call. Thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_01: 25:24

Yeah, we'll do a casting for it. That is awesome. That's awesome. But they're the the character is not gonna have a Boston accent, like it's just like a regional dialect type of casting.

SPEAKER_02: 25:34

No, no Boston accent. Because I was too young at that point.

SPEAKER_01: 25:37

I know, yes.

SPEAKER_02: 25:38

So yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 25:39

No, that's awesome. Well, I think one thing that is um uh common between this book and the next book, yeah, which is coming out before the end of the year. There's the deadline in real life. IRL. Uh yeah, so the next book is that it is written in a very similar format, with it being like a fable style story that is, you know, a character that is going through life changes um and exploration and discovery, uh, and how it impacts not only the main character but the people around them as well. So uh I'm not gonna give too much away on that because we would love for you to go out and purchase the quiet gift.

SPEAKER_02: 26:19

Purchase the quiet gift. Um look for the journal. That's probably gonna be a 2026 thing. Um once Natalie's book is released, I'm gonna start writing the second chapter of my life, which will be probably from my marriage to I don't know when. Um, so yeah, I think that's to me, there's probably like two or three more books in my until my life. The next one I think is gonna be a challenging one for me because I I you have to be so careful when you're writing because it's always from our perspective, the things that we went through in our lives. And I don't want to hurt anyone. So I I've got to write it in such a way that it's I've got the onus on this next part of my life. And so to be continued, that's a next year.

SPEAKER_01: 27:05

Next season until we'll see what comes out. So that means I mean, you all we have you at least two more books for you to to pick up. So we've got three that are in the works here. Pam has already started brainstorming and putting the storyboard together for book three. Um book two has just gone through the second round of edits, and so we'll do final edits on that and then um have the formatting and everything done before going through this process again of selecting the cover and um what the spine is going to look like. But now that we, as Pam mentioned, it's part of a um series, uh there that creates that's the anchor, right? It gives us that continuity, that that consistency that we can start and continue to see um through each of the books. But it's we're excited about it. We're excited about the the launch of the book. We'll make sure that we add a link in the show notes that will let you direct you to uh Amazon so that you can purchase the book. And it's on ebook. Oh, and it will be on Audible.

SPEAKER_02: 28:03

Yes. I oh that's oh yeah, that's my big project. I gotta read this book. Oh, I forget about that detail. Yes.

SPEAKER_01: 28:12

Yes, and it will be on Audible. I know. When one pan told me that on our last team call, she was like, Oh, I'm gonna go ahead and just I'll just record it. I'm just gonna give it a go. If you know, y'all, if there if there's one common thing that is consistent when working with both of us, it is we're just gonna give it a whirl. Let's see what happens. Let's see how you know what?

SPEAKER_02: 28:30

What's the worst thing that can happen? What's the worst thing?

SPEAKER_01: 28:32

So she just said, you know what, I'm gonna get on, I'm gonna start recording. Uh, it'll be interesting. And I was like, have you ever recorded for that amount of time before?

SPEAKER_02: 28:42

I'm gonna do each, I'm gonna do probably a chapter at a time.

unknown: 28:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 28:46

And uh, and you know, with dyslexia, I I'm not a fast reader. So good good news is is you can speed me up.

SPEAKER_01: 28:54

I feel that the editor can speed you up. That's fine. And I've never read a book at one time. I've you know, in Audible, you can increase the speed. So I'm a one-eight, one point eight every book. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02: 29:03

I'm like 1.5. Um, I go to 1.2 if it's got heavy content. And I'm like, wait, wait, what did they just say? And then I'll I'll go back. But um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 29:14

Well, and I think that's probably I'm a one-eight, but I read I follow along in the book and I uh listen to the audible. You know what? And I'm gonna blame that on public education because we had to do so much of that in elementary school. It's like everyone open your book, one person was selected to read, everyone else followed along, or the teacher read and we all followed along. That's natural for me. I'm like, I'll follow along. I don't need to do it. And so I'm a 1-8. Listen. Anyway, Pam's recording the audio.

SPEAKER_02: 29:43

Well, when she says I'm recording it, I will start recording it.

SPEAKER_01: 29:47

She's she's gonna. This is this is accountability and spinest live and it's accountability, and I will do it.

SPEAKER_02: 29:52

And it's just because I had several friends that said, Oh, are you gonna have it on Audible? I'm like, Well, I guess I will. Yeah, well, there's that.

SPEAKER_01: 30:00

I'm gonna go ahead and let you know book two is probably not gonna be on Audible. There you go. And if it is, it will not be my voice.

SPEAKER_02: 30:07

So that's I know. I was thinking, I was like, gosh, if I could get somebody with a fantastic like British accent or something, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 30:15

It wouldn't feel right, it wouldn't feel right.

SPEAKER_02: 30:18

No, gosh, it's so much nicer to listen to, right?

SPEAKER_01: 30:21

Maybe you could get a British actor to do the voice for Sam.

SPEAKER_02: 30:27

Oh, how would we do that?

SPEAKER_01: 30:30

Brainstorming, right?

SPEAKER_02: 30:32

Or maybe I'll just I'll just add a British accent. That's a I am not encouraging that. I'm not gonna encourage that. I'm just gonna use it. If you could just do one chapter as a teaser for all of us to hear, I think we'd enjoy it. Oh my gosh, no, that would just be no, I'm not doing that. That would be a hot audio.

SPEAKER_01: 30:53

Good audio. I I mean, here's the thing. I like would probably equate, and not that I'm not I'm saying that I wouldn't do this. It's kind of the similar same thing as like reading for the audiobook is the same as like singing the national anthem in a in a jam-packed stadium. Like same, same. I don't care what you say. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 31:09

Totally. Totally the same thing. I'm just gonna be thinking about that. I'm like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01: 31:14

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't, but I think you can do it and you'll do it well. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be lovely.

SPEAKER_02: 31:18

Okay. I love how this is this is Natalie. This is how she works. When I got something going on, I'll call her and she always puts a pauses but and she goes, Oh my gosh, it's gonna be totally fine. You got this, it's gonna be great.

SPEAKER_01: 31:28

It's it's gonna and isn't it always? It's always fine. It is. It's always fine.

SPEAKER_02: 31:31

It's always fine. It always are. It's what you focus on expands. It is always just fine.

SPEAKER_01: 31:36

We could sit here and think about the things that we don't know how to do or that we are not trained in, or that we don't have the skill set on.

SPEAKER_02: 31:44

Or we can just figure it out. Why would we do that when we just are like, well, then let's just do it. We don't know how to do a podcast, let's just do it.

SPEAKER_01: 31:51

You just embrace the idea that you know how to get it done or you'll know how to figure it out. I mean, that's a thing. We're smart people, we'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_02: 31:57

We can figure it out.

SPEAKER_01: 31:59

And then we improve on it and then make it better. We improve better.

SPEAKER_02: 32:04

Better.

SPEAKER_01: 32:05

Even better, er. We make it even better after that.

SPEAKER_02: 32:09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01: 32:09

Oh my gosh. Well, we are excited. We just wanted to come on and just share with all of you the book is out. The Quiet Gift, it is part of the Red Journal series. Um, you can find it on Amazon, uh, ebook, paperback. We are working on hardback or hardcover as well. So once that's up and available, it'll be available up and running, it'll be available on Amazon as well.

SPEAKER_02: 32:29

And I think it would be a great uh holiday gift. Uh stocking stuffers, stocking stuffer would be perfect for your family members.

SPEAKER_01: 32:38

Exactly. It would be a great stocking stuffer for moms because I know that many moms on whatever day you open a stocking typically don't have it stuffed. So stuff mom stocking.

SPEAKER_02: 32:52

Yes, or maybe you don't even have a stocking.

SPEAKER_01: 32:55

Exactly there's that.

SPEAKER_02: 32:57

There's that too.

SPEAKER_01: 32:58

You know what? That is a different book and a different podcast.

SPEAKER_02: 33:01

That's a totally different podcast.

SPEAKER_01: 33:03

So you know, I I feel like we need to go there. Not today. We won't go there the no, we won't go there today. There is like this trauma, motherhood trauma. I love motherhood, it is the best thing ever. But there are some things that moms go through that we just like grit our grin, what is it? Grin your teeth.

SPEAKER_02: 33:19

Grin and Barrett.

SPEAKER_01: 33:20

You grin and barrett, right? Like you just you're just like, okay, got it. What that's fine. No stocking this year. Okay, oh no stocking next year either. Got oh, no stocking ever. Okay, great.

unknown: 33:29

Okay, that's fine.

SPEAKER_01: 33:31

Happy holidays, everyone. Yeah, yeah. Happy holidays. Yay! Grin and Barret. That's it. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02: 33:39

Oh, that's a whole different yeah, we're not even gonna go down that rabbit. It's a different episode. So we would be this would be a good book for it because you know it's all about being unseen. And sometimes, moms, we don't feel very seen or appreciated.

SPEAKER_01: 33:54

I think so. I think this book speaks to that. So yes, buy it. It's a great stocking stuffer or whatever you stuff. Whatever you stuff. Just whatever you stuff. Just use it. Um, all right. We will we will drop the uh link in the show notes. We're just this is this is just us on a Friday. Um, I don't know if it's delusional or giddy or what have you, but it has been a pleasure. Um, Pam, congrats on getting your story out there. Thank you for being votable. Thank you for sharing your story. Um, yeah, I'm looking forward to to people giving us feedback and letting us know.

SPEAKER_02: 34:28

Yeah, and I can't wait for yours to to come next. And yeah, it's uh it's I never imagined this when we started this podcast that we would be sitting here talking about our first book that launched.

SPEAKER_01: 34:39

So no, and you know what? Had you asked me or had you said as we launched this podcast that part of that was going to be rolling out a book series or books about our personal lives, I would have been an absolute not because I'd already gone through that journey of like writing a personal story and having it critiqued and edited, and you know, that it's like it's pepper spray to the to the manuscript itself. I still have it. And let me just be completely honest, it was not great, and I'm glad that they didn't allow me to send that to mine. Um, but nonetheless, I had just gone through that. And so had you said three years ago, you know what? Here's a thing. Why don't we um why don't we write some books as well, some books? Yeah, books plural. I'm out, I'm out.

SPEAKER_02: 35:22

No, we're good. No, let's not even do the podcast. Forget it. I'm out exactly. Well, I don't think either of us imagined it.

SPEAKER_01: 35:32

No, I just don't think we even have it. But I'm grateful for it. Yeah, I'm grateful for it. This podcast has um turned into not only do we have the podcast, we have the Think Letter. If you haven't subscribed to The Think Letter, we now have the book, we have the journal that's coming out, a second book that's coming out. Um, this is something that I the work that we're doing here that we're hoping that it continues to ripple throughout the communities across the world, the global, right? Because we have um a lot of listeners that are in other countries as well. And so um that's uh that's that's our hope is that it continues to do that. So I'm grateful not just for the podcast, but for also going through the book writing experience yet again and putting myself out there, it'll be fine. It's gonna be fine, it'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02: 36:11

It's gonna be fine. It's gonna be just fine. Exactly. Keep telling ourselves that.

SPEAKER_01: 36:17

Continue to repeat that. It will be fine, you all. It will be fine. All right. Well, until next time. Um, and if you have not uh checked us out on YouTube, you can see video footage of our recording sessions, uh, our pod sessions on YouTube, um, or find us on any of your favorite streaming uh podcast platforms. And for the book, it's on Amazon, and uh we will drop it in the show notes. And if you have not subscribed to the Think Letter, I think you get those updates while these podcasts are playing. Uh, make sure that you subscribe to our weekly Think Letter that dives deeper into the things that we talk about and gives you some applicable tips that you can apply to your business on a weekly basis. So why not? Win-win.

SPEAKER_00: 36:57

Win win. I love it.

SPEAKER_01: 36:58

Exactly. We'll see you soon. Bye.

SPEAKER_00: 37:01

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