Mindset, Fly Fishing + Resiliency with Berin Jacob Wachsmann (part 2)

Natalie and Pam continue with Berin Wachsmann on mindset, nature, and fly fishing to build resiliency, mental health, and practical wellness habits.

Episode Summary:
 Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass sit down with Berin Wachsmann for part two. Berin shows how presence, intention, and time in nature quiet the inner critic and strengthen resiliency. The discussion covers mental health, service, frequency, and why journey over outcome changes everything.

What You’ll Learn:
 • How mindset shapes results on and off the water
 • Ways nature and fly fishing support mental health and resiliency
 • How to quiet the inner critic and “change the dial”
 • Why intention, patience, and service improve daily life

Key Takeaways:
 • You are not your thoughts. Observe, then choose.
 • Presence beats doomscrolling.
 • Intention and joyful energy shift outcomes.
 • The journey matters more than the count.
 • Community and service accelerate healing.

Notable Quotes:
 “Your biggest hater lives inside of you.” – Berin Wachsmann
“You’re not your thoughts. You’re the observer of your thoughts.” – Berin Wachsmann
 “Let your light shine.” – Berin Wachsmann

Practical Steps for Listeners:
 Do two minutes of mirror work. Say I love you. Breathe.
 Schedule a weekly nature block. No phone. Walk or sit by water.
 Set a simple intention before hard tasks. Name the outcome, then act.
 Track basics for 7 days. Sleep, steps, mood, and screen time.
 Replace one doomscroll session with breath work or journaling.

Guest Links:
 Fly Fishing Saves Lives, inquire: berinjacob@flyfishingsaveslives.com

 Instagram: @berinjacob

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Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Resilience
• 2:55 First Catch: Mindset and Inner Critic
• 9:17 Fly Fishing Saves Lives Movement
• 17:56 Healing Through Water and Nature
• 23:47 Project Healing Waters Veterans Program
• 27:48 Changing Your Frequency and Reality

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. Resilience where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

Speaker 2: 0:42

I think I need to talk about the fish that I caught, because it goes into. I think I saw a picture of it.

Speaker 3: 0:47

I think I saw a picture of it and it actually came up with a very accomplished fisherman, an attorney, the other day, and he's talking about permit and this gentleman has homes all over the world that's been chasing permit, which is a very Permit, that's a fish Permit to catch.

Speaker 2: 1:02

Okay, has that ever been on my radar in life? Never.

Speaker 3: 1:05

That's a fish Permit. Has that ever been on my radar in life? Never. A lot of fly fisher people fish their whole life. Years, pam, years Hoping, spend tens of thousands of dollars, travel the world trying to catch a permit Okay, and this young lady, like first time out, was like I don't see why it's so hard, I don't want to talk about it, I want to talk about another one.

Speaker 3: 1:26

I don not one, not another one, I don't. Yeah. And you know what that goes back to, though like my first trip, tarpon fishing same thing. It's all mindset, right.

Speaker 3: 1:30

I went out first day, first trip ever, first two tarpon. I saw they both took the fly. I landed both of them. This is typically unheard of over 100 pound tarp people. Again, people will fish their whole life to catch one or jump one. My buddy, who'd been doing it for 10 years and owned a house down there, was so upset. Another realtor here in town and this local guy goes this is your first trip ever. Yeah, first day. Yeah, first two tarpon. You saw you hooked him in. I said yeah. He said your luck is done for five years, oh, five years.

Speaker 3: 2:00

And at that time no one had told me it was supposed to be hard? I didn't know. I grew up in Colorado. This is a sea, this is fishing in the ocean. I was like, is it supposed to be hard? Because I just, it was like trout fishing to me. I saw the fish and they took the fly. I landed the fish. It was nine years and many, many trips and thousands of shots. They call it where you get a chance to catch one, before I ever caught another tarpon, but he got in my head, dr Evil, porkchop the fly fishing guide, right yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:30

Planted that seed and said you're done.

Speaker 3: 2:32

Planted a little bit of a seed, which again, lovely podcast you ladies had the other day I hope to bring this message of positivity.

Speaker 3: 2:39

But that inner critic, that inner voice that we all have, I tell people, you know, your biggest hater lives inside of you, the one you listen to, maybe not your biggest, but the one that tends to get to you the most. And you have a choice right, those thoughts, you don't have to accept those. All this that comes from the ether, all this infinite intelligence. Okay, you're not your thoughts, you're the observer of your thoughts and you get to decide that one's not for me, that one's not for me, that one's not. When you're out there in nature, you don't even have to be fly fishing, just be out there and it's quiet and the phone's not ringing, or, if it is, you don't have it, or you're not listening to it, or it's turned off and you're focused on the moment and that inner critic tends to go away. Just, you get a reprieve and a breath of what that's like, and that is what it's all about. That can become addictive in a good way, in a good way, I think.

Speaker 2: 3:29

I think that moment, that feeling that you talk about, is what sparked the Fly Fishing Saves Lives.

Speaker 3: 3:34

It certainly was. That movement started with myself and some other friends that had all gone through. We were all married at that time to our high school sweetheart. All of us had gotten divorced within two weeks. Five of us and some of us were spiraling down this bad path and needed a way through that, and fly fishing helped provide that.

Speaker 3: 3:55

I don't want to make this about men, but part of it is. When you help heal the masculine energy and the trauma, we can become better fathers, friends, brothers, better sons, better husbands, better partners, better uncles, nephews, better leaders, better followers, better humans who then can give that value back to the world. And that's part of that getting people out there. And they don't have to be men. I take a lot of women. They tend to resonate quicker and easier. They have a lot more patience.

Speaker 3: 4:28

Usually the feminine energy is accepting and the masculine want to force things and it's you're just allowing. You're going to do the best you can do and put that fly on the water or into the ocean and you allow what's going to happen to happen. And it's a metaphor for the universe in life, because most of the time, even if you don't catch anything, you're like it was awesome, whereas if you go, start the new business and it fails, you're like that sucked and I don't want to ever do that again, I quit. Or I went out and tried this and I opened the podcast and nobody listened for the first 20 episodes, so I quit. And the fly fishing that generally doesn't happen.

Speaker 3: 5:06

You might go and then you go and you're like I had this feeling. The inner critic was silenced, I was in the moment and I was able to accept where I was, who I was, who I was with what I was doing, right then and there. And all the light that you need in the entire universe is always in that present moment, this one we're having right now. Everything, it's all unfolding now, right, and the universe, when you're out there, it doesn't know scarcity, it doesn't know lack, it only knows expansion, it only knows more. And when you immerse yourself in that, it can really change your life.

Speaker 2: 5:43

I love that and the group of you that came together to create this concept. Right, like that, fly fishing saves lives and kind of going through this big major lifestone and season of life right, that's always what we talk about is the season of life and those that found or were able to lean into fly fishing. I'm assuming it looked different. Right, it was just. This is a sort of an outlet and a way that I can just I have a hobby, I can fill my time with it, and then I'm assuming that others went the direction of that you've gone in terms of seeing the bigger picture. Like, here's really the impact.

Speaker 3: 6:16

Yes, and maybe and I might even be way out on this uh, I'm going to call it the leading edge, but a lot of that sport is associated with let's go fish and eat some fried chicken and have a beer and do the thing. And a rich, older, let's face it white male who has the means and all that, and that is not what that movement is about, or I'm about. I have the privilege to go, but you don't need a lot of money. You can get started practically for free. You don't need to drink beer if you don't want a lot of money. You can get started practically for free. You don't need to drink beer if you don't want to. I think I've had four beers all year, I'd say, on the river by a campfire, but I really I don't drink, I don't eat fried chicken, I haven't even eaten meat for months.

Speaker 2: 6:58

Not to say that you don't enjoy it. You just don't eat it. I'm not saying I don't enjoy it or there's anything wrong with it or any of that.

Speaker 1: 7:05

No judgment in that.

Speaker 3: 7:06

But for me at this point it's truly about the fly fishing saves lives and the lifestyle of. I want to be out there, like my cousin who's 89 and was out on the water and I left and he's still out there fishing in the wind doing his thing and, frankly, has led a pretty healthy lifestyle that allows him to be out there and do that and again, it's a beautiful thing. So, yeah, and I really think it can not think. I know, I know there's different ways it can contribute to people's mental health, to healing their trauma, to healing their PTSD, their anxiety, their depression, especially, I believe, if they have a mentor or a guide who's both going to guide them in the fly fishing and maybe guide them a little bit in life.

Speaker 3: 7:51

You know, and the positive aspect of, hey, this isn't you've been in your life so far, but you can choose differently. Your consciousness is the only reality. You can mentally choose a new consciousness and your outer reality will change to reflect that. It's all a mirror. I'm you, you're me, we're all different aspects of each other, and trying to impress that upon the youth as part of, or even people, my age or older, different backgrounds, is part of my mission. That, hey, if you believe in scarcity, if you speak over yourself, this lack, or I have this or I have that, or I am this or I am that, then your assumptions and your beliefs, that's what you will be. But if you can learn to integrate and speak differently and talk differently to yourself and I can give you even just a little bit of light and hope in that arena by getting you out on the water so that that can spark some change, then that's my new mission in life.

Speaker 3: 8:49

Current mission ironically, the ceo and I'm going to put this out there because I know he's going to listen, he might be a good guest for your podcast the ceo of project healing waters, john st linkford. Uh, 23 year marine. Hasn't been on the water for two years, he told me yesterday years. He's busy promoting this gala and this, this my new mission in life, is before the end of this month, I'm getting that man on the water as you should.

Speaker 3: 9:14

He has saved countless lives, both in combat and project healing waters. And yeah, as you two ladies said on the podcast, you can't see the forest for the trees. Sometimes he's in the forest deep.

Speaker 2: 9:28

And what I love about the work that they do is that they have the veterans that come in and the process of tying flies is like therapeutic for them, right, like it's just a matter of like quieting your brain, because I think a lot of people don't realize that the overstimulation is sometimes too much for many of our veterans, and we have a lot of that and he shared. I had the opportunity to visit their office as well, maybe a year ago now, and they talk about like bringing these veterans in and them tying the flies and like just that. Like that's it, like it's not that they're out on the water, it's just going through every step of the process.

Speaker 3: 10:03

Yeah, which is truly about. Again, back to the journey. The journey and I love that you brought that up, because there's so much creativity. There's people that tie flies that don't fish, and there's people who fish that don't tie flies. But the creativity of now.

Speaker 3: 10:18

I'm going to go out and I'm going to choose again. I use this as a metaphor for the universe. I'm going to choose the again. I use this as a metaphor for the universe. I'm going to choose the value that I'm going to bring to this experience.

Speaker 3: 10:28

So I'm going to choose this fly and I'm going to present it in this way and I'm okay with what happens next, even if what happens next isn't the fish taking the fly, and if that happens long enough, I'm going to choose a different way or a different fly, and I'm going to present it in a different way, and I'm going to think outside the box and I'm going to get creative about how I do that.

Speaker 3: 10:50

And then, if you've ever watched people fly cast which we used to do free casting lessons on Thursdays in the park I think I'll start that again. It's, there's an art to it again and there's a meditation aspect that happens in this. Even in the preparation of. I got to have these flies in this box and this way and I got to have this here and then I'm on the water and I don't want to get wet and I don't want to fall, so I got to have this gear and I got to have that thing and this tied on and this and this, and then now we know you got to have all of them.

Speaker 2: 11:17

You have to have it all.

Speaker 3: 11:19

One box that you don't have every, every time it happened to me again always a guy's fault happened to me earlier this year, my one bang line. I'm like it's june, these type of flies will not be on this type of river ever, but definitely not in june. And sure enough I left it at home. It was the only one I left at home, the only box of flies. And we get there and these drakes are coming off and I'm you've got to be kidding me. Of course I've got 10,000 flies, 10,000 flies, but not those.

Speaker 2: 11:49

And not the right one For our non-fishermen when we talk about flies not we. When you talk about flies, I'm not talking about flies, two things. When you talk about flies, it's actually like the natural whatever is hatching, like the insects and bugs that are hatching off the water. So it's like regional, it's seasonal, it's like it's so you've got. Like when you talk about the flies that are tied, they're tied to mimic exactly what's hatching off of the water at that time. So the fish are not dumb. And so when you talk about, like the gift to the universe, I do want to say, because I've been able to witness this, like when you talk about the gift that you're putting out there, the fly that you put out, and and see how the fish responds, not only do they not take it, I've been witness to the fish swimming up to it and bumping it with their tail like get out of here. I don't want that right.

Speaker 3: 12:34

Like they give it the middle fin, and that's when you hear the fly fisher person go.

Speaker 4: 12:44

Well, that's that fish right back at you, right back at you joyful energy.

Speaker 3: 12:53

Yeah, and sometimes it's not to be clear, it's not always a fly or an insect fly fishing. Personally, I've also delved into what's called blue water tuna.

Speaker 3: 13:02

You can catch any fish oh yeah, that's right yeah, I'm convinced and I'm gonna continue to try, and so are my friends. Any fish on the planet on a fly rod oh, grouper, I've caught sailfish, marlin, tuna, mahi, grouper, snapper, all of those fish that people use, think of gear or bait I have caught fish with all the teeth that comp chopped down on you, that you, yes of it.

Speaker 3: 14:23

There's vegetarian fish that are of the piranha family, called machacas, in Argentina. All of these fish I personally have caught on a fly rod, and so sometimes the fly mimics, in the case of machaca, a piece of fruit and actually looks like a piece of fruit. Sometimes it mimics a bait fish or a shrimp or a crab or something. For permit it's usually a crab. It's not an actual, it's called a fly but it looks like a crab. So that again the creativity that happens for the people who are like I've got to. Even the guys will show up with this beautifully tied crab. You pay $20 at the fly shop and they're like let me tear this leg off that leg. They take out a Sharpie and color it and then they do the thing and they're like now it will work when you're like, okay. Or they look at your whole box and they go that's great, here's the fly you need to use.

Speaker 4: 15:11

I'm glad you bought all of those Like dang it.

Speaker 2: 15:15

My inexperienced self, I always like to pick the ones that are sparkly.

Speaker 3: 15:30

Whatever one's going to sparkle the most, that's the one you need to stick in the water, just, and it works for you.

Speaker 3: 15:33

Again, it's all about your intention, yeah, your intention behind the act, because many of us myself included, I'm guilty of getting caught up in this reality and doing things semi-consciously or unconsciously, and the intention behind it fouls up what's supposed to happen. If your intention is pure and I say that from just the best word I can think of but when you come with an intention that comes from a good place, a place of love, compassion, empathy, kindness, courtesy, that will resonate with whatever it is you're trying to do, or just to bring value or help in some way, some form or fashion and the world needs more of that and patience, and that's certainly something, again, that, when people are like fly fishing, saves lives. How how does that happen? If you think of some of the core values, of what this sport is about, which is immersion in the moment, in nature, having patience, being kind, being courteous, showing compassion, a lot of fly fisher people return that fish to the water right, it's catch and release, having good stewardship of the land and the resources.

Speaker 3: 16:36

Most people wouldn't look at that and go well, that doesn't make a good person. That makes a shitty person. These are characteristics that I believe most people would say make for a solid character of a person that you would want to identify with or be around or spend time with or become talk about rookies that come in and are told oh, you won't sell a house for six months, and they don't sell a house for six months.

Speaker 4: 17:07

And then you have rookies that come in and have never been told anything and just start crushing it. And so when you have these preconceived, or somebody plants that seed of, oh you can't do that, you're never going to catch this on the first, you're not going to catch one for another five years. Never happens. And then you believe it and then it actually happens.

Speaker 3: 17:25

Yeah, you don't think you believe it, you just, and I would encourage anyone. This is hard to do. No, I'm not going to say that. This can be challenging for some people to do. For me it has been challenging. This is again your podcast gives people, gives me, the ability to be seen, to be heard, to show your light to the world, which then allows other people to go. Oh, I can show my light too. It's safe.

Speaker 3: 17:51

And when someone speaks that over me now I tend to say, if I can, without hurting their feelings either internally or externally, I don't receive that. That's not my reality, as you guys had on your last podcast. That's not my that. That's not my reality, as you guys had on your last podcast. That's not my stuff, that's your stuff.

Speaker 3: 18:07

Words are. It doesn't matter your religion, I don't care. But if you look at certain texts, in the beginning there was the word, and the word was God, the words that we use, your mind, your mood, your self-talk, your external talk, your thought, that all shapes your reality. And so when people speak that, I would encourage people to have the courage, even internally, to say I don't receive that. That is not my truth. And if you can say it externally, even because that resonates, that goes out into the ether and that frequency carries forth, as felt by the universe, my belief. Yeah, there's some cool stuff that will side note show that. And it all goes back to pam, I think I know. You know this now. You know the frequency right. Just because that radio station isn't on your dial doesn't mean it's not broadcasting. So that's the same with your consciousness, the same with your reality.

Speaker 3: 18:59

Is 97.3. The minute you hit it, boom, it's there, you hear it. Now you go to 97.5, you're hearing that, but 97.3,. The minute you hit it, boom, it's there, you hear it. Now you go to 97.5, you're hearing that, but 97.3 is still playing right. So when someone speaks that over you, I encourage everyone to take the time to say if that's not your truth, at least internally say I don't receive that. I'm changing the dial. Yeah, yeah, not today, bia.

Speaker 2: 19:19

Exactly, that's right. Exactly Not today, as our prior guests have said, as your prior guests actually do a mental swat of it away. Like you don't always have the opportunity to like, just say it out loud but I'm just like that's not mine. That's not mine, that's not my burden.

Speaker 3: 19:34

That's not my, you know, and it's all perfect, right, it's all perfect. The stuff that happened and I'll tell you so. When I got my teeth knocked out, I I got jumped. Eighth grade dance my new junior high I was going to bolts. I love bolts. We had moved. If I got a, b, that was the deal. My mom was like I'm not driving you to school anymore for anything but A's. I had a joint project with a gentleman. I won't say his name Jason Garcia.

Speaker 2: 20:00

Jason, did you hear that?

Speaker 3: 20:03

He messed up the project, I think because of him. Anyway, got a C, ended up with a B. So boom, I'm going to a different school. That school was very different than where I came from. Where I came from, everyone kind of got along In this school. They didn't like one type of. There was five skateboarders. They everybody had one thing in common they hated the skaters. Anyway, I ended up getting jumped. I got all these from this canine to this canine, knocked out, these teeth, my nose broken. That was the first time I got broken and I ended up in handcuffs that night with my teeth hanging out waiting, had to go to the orthodontist, get them all shoved back in black gum.

Speaker 3: 20:37

I didn't know till years later and a lot of therapy and going through life coaching, that that experience affected me to. If you're big and bright and bold which when I came there I was like skateboarders at my school are popular and everyone gets along. So we're going to change the narrative. People will come for you, people will attack you. If you shine your light too bright, people will come for that light and try and dim it, and they do. They do some people, and so you got to hide it. But that's the narrative that I want to help change is don't hide it. Shine it even brighter and know that those experiences, as unpleasant as they may be, they were perfect in your soul contract before you came here. This is my belief. When you incarnate, you're like I want to learn this, this, this and this. I need to evolve here and here.

Speaker 3: 21:23

And so you actually asked. Now you had mentioned my upbringing. I had some crazy stuff. I was held at gunpoint in my parents' kitchen for hours by my own stepfather, who was a convicted criminal, abusive man in and throughout the home, all kinds of stuff. But it wasn't until later that I realized my soul called that in. As terrible as that was narcissistic relationships this that Some of us know. The year I moved eight times I lost my home. It was the country song. I lost my home, I lost my dog, I had a TIA, I had a mini stroke at the office. All this stuff happened. My dad died, everything. But my soul called all of that in. I actually asked for that. It's all perfect. It's not pleasant, it's perfect.

Speaker 3: 22:07

I asked for these challenges to come my way so that I could learn, and it's taken a lot for me to understand that we don't have to learn through pain and I guarantee a lot of people right now think I'm crazy. In fact I know they. I've had so many friends in fly fishing say you're not gonna make the money you made in real estate 25 years in real estate. You want to be a fly fishing guy? Why do you want to go from making money to broke living out of a camper? And I'm like it's not about the money. And most people don't go say, hey, everything's perfect, everything's going so good. You know what I'm gonna do. I going to switch it up. I'm going to follow my heart. I'm going to follow my dreams. I'm going to change it up Because I only get one life. It's usually through pain.

Speaker 2: 22:46

I was going to say, except for us, Like we kind of do that Pam and I do that.

Speaker 3: 22:48

Y'all do that.

Speaker 2: 22:49

We're going to swap.

Speaker 3: 22:56

We're going to change things up. We're the, and pleasure tends to keep you here and pain until it gets bad enough. But the truth is we all ask for those things. My belief that's just my belief is that we made a contract with our own soul because we are eternal, infinite beings in these temporal bodies. And when you realize that and remember that, you think okay, well, I'm here to evolve.

Speaker 3: 23:21

I signed up for earth school and I wasn't learning about self-worth until I was in that relationship with I don't like the word narcissist because that makes you the victim and them the narcissist. I was in that relationship with that person who acts in that way because I'm not a victim. I put myself in that position. I asked for that so that I could learn where I needed to heal and what I needed to learn about myself, which is another reason for 5-H to say I love getting out there with different people from different aspects and different backgrounds, because they're just a mirror and if they trigger you, good, good, because that means that's something you need to look at and heal and investigate Again.

Speaker 3: 24:01

I loved your last guess, that whole shame thing. Brilliant, Absolutely brilliant. Triggers trigger you because it's a mirror. All of life is that mirror of your own inner consciousness. It's just a reflection of your beliefs and or the things you need to heal or consider looking at or a lot of times too, it's the value that you bring and the light that you shine and the beauty. When people are like I know the two of you shine a lot of light and a lot of beauty in the world, and so you have a lot of people around you that are beautiful and light and mirror that back to you. Not everybody understands that, so good for you, Good for the two of you, Thank you.

Speaker 4: 24:40

It's the frequency or the channel you choose to listen to. Right, you know, when we talk about, we attract those incidents, those things that happen, the people that happen, and it's because it's a frequency we're on at that moment and when you're on that same frequency, you track those type of people until you are able to change that channel. And a lot of that is that inner work, to say that that doesn't serve me anymore. I'm going to the next channel and this next channel and, as you put, it.

Speaker 3: 25:06

you can change that dial at any time, just like the radio. You can change internally, change your internal consciousness, and your external reality will eventually follow and it's all through. It's not all, but it's frequency and feeling. You feel your way through life and that's hard for a lot of us. We don't want to feel our way through life.

Speaker 4: 25:25

We don't want to feel. We want to push those down and don't address them and just keep plugging forward.

Speaker 3: 25:31

Right, and Natalie, you brought this up Like when this movement kind of started. For some it's a way to numb. Fly fishing can be a way to just like drinking or doing drugs or whatever advice you have, going to the gym, whatever can be a way to distract and numb yourself from actually doing one of the hardest things in life, which is just sitting with yourself quietly and saying who am I really? And feeling your way through that and sitting with the feeling it doesn't mean you got to hang onto it forever, but you need to process that, I think and feel it, identify it. But most people don't want to sit with themselves very long. When you get out there fly fishing, you have no choice. A lot of times, especially solo, you're going to sit with yourself and discover things.

Speaker 2: 26:17

Which I think is awesome.

Speaker 2: 26:18

I think that if you're able to take advantage of that opportunity, I think that it's definitely going to be enlightening and it doesn't have to be with fly fishing, but that's the area that you focused on. But giving yourself those moments to be with yourself and I know for me, that's something that I've worked on and I've started to really enjoy. Previously, like I would avoid things that would cause me to spend time with myself because I didn't want that. I think that's why I would avoid, like doing long runs and things of that nature. I'm like I don't need to have three hours with myself to just be with myself. I like me now and I'll take three hours with myself.

Speaker 2: 26:54

I think it's enjoyable. But, yeah, I love that. The vehicle that you are providing and the modality that you're introducing through fly fishing saves lives is one that I think a lot of people can have new experiences with. Look at it differently, but you're basically coupling together, like the life coaching skills that you've developed and the fly fishing experience that you have, and bringing those two worlds together to create a space for people to do some growth, some reflection, maybe just to experience fly fishing if that's worth it.

Speaker 3: 27:24

Yeah, and 25 years, let's not forget I think the two of you can resonate with this 25 years of real estate, yeah which is basically a therapist. I used to joke early in my career. I said there's no crying in real estate. And then I would say, yes, there is, and it's usually the agent. It's usually the broker that's crying Honestly. Yes, there is, and it's usually the agent. It's usually the broker that's trying Honestly when the deal gets sideways or whatever happens but there's people skills that you develop along the year, because we deal with change Exactly.

Speaker 3: 27:54

A lot of real estate happens through divorce death. Kid goes to college, kid comes back from college. This happens to them, job loss, job gain, move across the country. These are big things in people's lives and a big part of our job is to not go on the emotional roller coaster with them but to be there and hold space for them while they go through that and the biggest, usually financial purchase of their life and or investment. All at the same time I don't want to diminish my 25 years. That's a massive, massive role and a massive opportunity again to not only add value but to shine your light into their world, even just a little bit, and be like hey, because most of us most of us.

Speaker 3: 28:36

my name Barron means Barron low German. I'm the first generation born in America, my family, most of us just want a hug and somebody to tell us it's going to be okay.

Speaker 2: 28:46

Yeah, I love that. Beautiful, I love that. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you for sharing your story and your mission that you are working on now. Is there anything that we haven't touched on that you want to share with our listeners before we wrap up you?

Speaker 3: 28:59

know what I would say and I'm paraphrasing. I'll give credit where credit is due to Neville Goddard, who I listen to quite a bit. I think a lot of spiritual community espouse what he taught years ago. But please, please, take the time to give yourself the self-love and compassion and grace and gratitude for where you are and what you're doing, and know that that inner critic, that inner voice, that inner narcissist, that's not you, that isn't you, and you can change that frequency, you can change that dial anytime you choose to and choose a new path and a new reality.

Speaker 3: 29:35

And the brighter you shine your light with the world, even if you think it's only a couple people. You have no idea the ripple effect that will happen when you shine your light with the world or how you can make someone's day. You know this. I still do give books flowers. The amount of people that I have had cry because they got flowers for the first time in a long time, first time ever you change their life. So let your light shine. Let your light shine and start with shining it on yourself first and give yourself that inner grace, gratitude and love and hug that you need. And if you can't do that, then you know what, reach out to me and I'll help you with it. Or reach out to a friend or a loved one. You know. Start with giving value back to others.

Speaker 2: 30:18

Beautiful, perfect, perfect Online. You are Baron Jacob on Instagram.

Speaker 3: 30:24

Yeah, pretty much. My handle is Baron B-E-R-I-N. Baron Jacob at Baron Jacob on Instagram, at Baron Jacob on TikTok, at Baron Bloxman on YouTube now, but I'll change that to Baron Jacob. Baronjacob at gmailcom or BaronJacob at FlyF at flyfishingsaveslivescom. You can email me.

Speaker 2: 30:47

Yeah, absolutely we'll make sure that we put your contact information in the show notes.

Speaker 3: 30:52

This has been wonderful, thank you, thank you for sharing what an opportunity this has been.

Speaker 2: 30:57

Thank you thank you absolutely. Thank you for sharing your story with us. Thank you for sharing your story with our listeners. I know that I have quite a few nuggets I had behind the scenes to your stories and it's still a nice reminder for all of us to, as you talk about shining your light. Sometimes we forget, right, because life happens and then we get, as you started out the show, pam, it's like everything is happening around and then we forget about the priorities, like ourselves and what we're sharing and actually putting back out in the world, and so thank you for that gentle reminder as well. That was nice to have today For our listeners. You all know.

Speaker 2: 31:33

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Speaker 1: 32:04

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