Natural Living + Resiliency with Troy Casey (part 2)

Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass continue their conversation with Troy Casey, the Certified Health Nut. Troy explains why returning to nature drives real health results. He calls out research bias in modern nutrition, the pitfalls of quick fixes, and the lure of influencer shortcuts. He offers a simple starting point, the mirror, then builds a plan around water, real food, sleep, movement, and sunlight. He closes with resources and his upcoming Vipassana retreat. Clear, simple, actionable.

Key takeaways
 • Start with honesty. Look in the mirror and own the next step.
 • Water first. Prioritize clean, mineral rich sources.
 • Eat real food. Farmer direct when possible. Avoid pesticides and herbicides.
 • Sleep with the sun. Honor circadian rhythms.
 • Move daily. Walk an hour. Build from there.
 • Ground outside. Seek morning light.
 • Quality beats quantity. Nutrient density drives energy, mood, and body composition.
 • Quick fixes hide costs. Pay the farmer or pay the doctor.
 • Tune out hype. Judge progress by how you feel, move, sleep, and eliminate.
 • Build community. Learn from practitioners rooted in nature, not gadgets.

Practical steps

1. Mirror work. Two minutes. Look into your eyes. Say, I love you. Breathe.
2. Water upgrade. Choose spring or properly filtered water. Carry a bottle while traveling.
3. Food audit. Swap one processed item for a farmer sourced option today.
4. Walk. Sixty minutes outside. Daily.
5. Morning light. Step outside within 30 minutes of waking. No sunglasses.
6. Sleep window. Target 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. most days.
7. Grounding. Barefoot on grass or soil for ten minutes.
8. Track basics. Sleep, steps, bowel movements, energy on waking.

Resources mentioned
 • Vipassana meditation, dhamma.org
 • Weston A. Price Foundation and Sally Fallon’s work
 • Joel Salatin, Polyface Farm
 • Paul Chek, CHEK Institute

Notable quotes
 “Choose your hard.”
 “Pay now or pay later. Pay the farmer or pay the doctor.”
 “Everyone wants a miracle while walking around in one.” - Troy Casey, Certified Health Nut

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Chapters

• 0:06 Reigniting Through Natural Wisdom
• 5:30 Breaking Free From Research Bias
• 10:40 Mirror Work: Where Healing Begins
• 17:02 The Nine Pillars of Health
• 22:47 Pay the Farmer or Pay the Doctor
• 27:22 Disconnect to Reconnect: Silent Retreats

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. Resilience where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, natalie Davis and Pamela Kass.

Speaker 2: 0:41

People are finding me because the commercial conduits are not working anymore. The medical establishment isn't working anymore for them Not for everybody. Some people are still addicted to that programming. However, coming back to nature in as many facets as possible, our grandmothers all knew this. You guys live up in Colorado and I know there's some still nature-based elements up there. Right, colorado is very similar to California and Northern California, and so we were closer to the land not too many generations ago, and we all know that the sunlight is important and that natural fiber clothing is probably going to help us feel better. And whole natural foods without pesticides and herbicides are going to make us feel better. And whole natural foods without pesticides and herbicides are going to make us feel better. Right, pure water is going to help us feel better, going to sleep with the natural rhythms of life, the sun and the moon that's going to make us feel better.

Speaker 2: 1:33

There's massive amounts of research. We don't need a bunch of research bias. You know reams and reams of reports of how it's scientifically validated that glyphosate is okay to spray on crops. No, no, no, no, no. This is called research bias. This is lying with paper, right, with lawyers and paper and all this layers of gaslighting and lying and inversion. I think it says in the Bible or one of those, you know, one of the ancient texts, that in these end times, and at the end of anything is the beginning of the next right, and so in these end times it will all be inverted. We're living in that, we're completely being gaslit on every single level, like uh-uh, it's not happening, you know, and it's like yeah, it is we don't need to be giving welfare moms.

Speaker 2: 2:26

Coca-cola, you know what I'm saying like. And then you got the american heart association and other companies that are funded by coca-cola and these software drinks showing up at congress going this is the rights of the people, or whatever their little argument was. Well, that's bullshit.

Speaker 3: 2:43

It makes them feel good. It makes them feel good Feel good, but not physically better, right? Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 2:52

But you have the talking heads, the learned people of today that are the paid prostitutes. Right, they know better than that. We all know better than that. But what? We can just shovel it down our throat and expect not to be a statistic. Well, let's just be honest with ourselves. Let's be honest with ourselves and each other and get back to basics. First and foremost, like I said again, this is psychological warfare. So we're dealing with news reports that are scientifically validating all this stuff and research bias and saying all this garbage is good for us, when it's simply not. There's a massive amount of research. British Soil Association, the military, did research a long time ago. Organics outperform commercially farmed stuff. You're not saving the world with GMOs, You're poisoning the world. This is all well known. You can go on. The britishsoilassociationorg Eve Balfour did massive amounts of research.

Speaker 2: 3:44

And so the father of modern day medicine is Hippocrates. We take the Hippocratic oath which says do no harm. But pharmaceutical drugs do nothing but harm. They're not side effects. That's a marketing gimmick. They are toxic effects on the human body. But what did the man say? He was a third century BC philosopher. He said let thy food be thy medicine and thy medicine be thy food and what did we use to hunt and gather? Roots, barks, berries, greens, anything that was edible, and usually that stuff had terpenes, alkaloids, phytonutrients that aren't available in the commercial food supply. So we used to take herbs and herbal teas and flowers and things like this that would cleanse our blood and assist our liver and kidneys in the detoxification processes, and we just got away from that. Oh, that's woo-woo. You got any scientific proof for that? Like nobody's studying flowers and herbs because you can't patent that stuff.

Speaker 3: 4:36

And it's not on an end cap, so it's hard to do that right. It's also not on the end cap at the grocery stores. No, no, coupons and no there's not a coupon for it, that's for sure, right?

Speaker 4: 4:46

That type of stuff, yeah, so how does somebody get started? Cause I think you know listening to this, somebody could be very overwhelmed, Like where would it even start? Like well, how would you recommend somebody get started?

Speaker 2: 4:58

We start in a place where we all look every single day right in the mirror, okay, right. And then our little inner critic goes in oh you don't look good over here, you're a little chubby over here, and critic, critic. Everyone can do some mirror work. Stare right into those eyeballs and stay there for as long as you can. It's only going to take a couple minutes to where you start crying and it's all right there, right, and you can repeat I love you, I love you, I love you. You can do whatever you want consciously to bring that up, but just staring in the mirror is good enough, if you like or you don't like what you see. Well, guess who gets to take responsibility for that right? Us, only us. Everyone's looking for a miracle, but they're walking around in one right, and so we are all children of God. We are imbued with the power back to autogenesis or even autophagy. The body will automatically heal itself. The Essene gospel of peace.

Speaker 2: 6:04

Some say that the Essenes taught Jesus how to fast. I mean, fasting is a tool in the toolbox. You know, we've gotten away from nature, we've gotten away from missing the hunt and maybe having a not as bountiful harvest right, and so sometimes you fasted a little bit longer. This would naturally clean out the body and we also had access to more pure water before the industrial age. And so you look in the mirror and then I've identified nine pillars of health in my book and my online curriculum, and so these are natural fundamental principles, or in physics they call them first principles. Meaning you can't have this without that. Meaning you're 70% water.

Speaker 2: 6:45

Good idea to get some pure water, otherwise your body's going to have to detoxify that and God forbid, it has. Aaron Brockovich did that movie, cesium 6. Remember those chemicals from the chemical plant were in the groundwater, et cetera. So it's a good idea to get some pure water. You don't want to be drinking Cesium 6 or any kind of lead or any of that stuff. So pure water. You're mostly water. Your brain's 90% water. Good idea to get some good hydrating water. Hopefully it's structured, maybe it comes from a spring, et cetera.

Speaker 2: 7:14

And then your eyeballs and spinal cord and nose, hairs and everything else is made up of the earth, and so it's a good idea to start sourcing some real, pure, farmer direct food, preferably with people that don't spray pesticides and herbicides all over there. That's going to destroy your gut microbiome. That's an optimal choice and that mirror. That's where you're going to find the answers, because if we don't like what we see and also we have some images that are out of balance because a lot of people have plastic surgery, they're on drugs and peptides and they're not telling you about them and they're all fitness influencers, and then they get the algorithm and then people look at that and they're like I think I need to look at this and so I need to look like this. It used to be in the fashion industry when I was in there years ago as well, and so these are false signals for us and so we kind of get out of balance. A woman needs 22% body fat to have a child, otherwise it's going to suck it out of their bone marrow right, osteoporosis, postpartum issues, etc.

Speaker 2: 8:10

So Weston A Price and the Price Foundation and Price Pottinger Foundation and Sally Fallon who runs that. Now they have a good summit I think it's in Utah this year in October. Food like bone broths and farmer direct and fertile, high quality bug fed eggs and meats and grass fed remnants that aren't eating corn and soy from GMO farms and stuff, and so natural traditions is the cooking book that Sally Fallon wrote, and so there are people that are based in this type of natural healing. That's not really like influencer-based, like the Weston A Price Foundation. These guys are age old. My holistic dentist is a big proponent of them and so not everything's just biohacking online, right. That's kind of like the front-end commercial side. A lot of people are lost in that segment.

Speaker 2: 9:10

But getting back to nature, my mentor, the great Paul Cech fascinating human being, and this man is the top strength trainer in the world. He rehabbed Kobe's Achilles and Laird Hamilton and Rick Rubin. I mean he's helped a lot of medically retired athletes to extended multimillion dollar careers, a lot of motocross spinal cord injuries and stuff like that, and the guy can deadlift 400 plus pounds in his 60s, right. So it's not just me, there's a whole bunch of other good colleagues. Joel Salatin that owns Polyface Farms. He's a good person to follow.

Speaker 2: 9:45

He was in the movie Food Inc and I think they've got another film on him called the Lunatic Farmer, and this guy is just a brother that figured it out in the 80s and like how can I grow natural food and healthy food for my family? And then they test his food and lo and behold, his eggs have more 1200% more riboflavin than any of the farms around him in Virginia, and riboflavin is directly related to mental health. And what are we having problems with right now? And so, yes, food makes a difference. Just because you crack an egg open, that kind of looks like the other egg. Well, usually the yolks are a little bit more yellow. They're not that healthy, and real healthy ones are orange, but people think I still see internet influencer calories of calorie. Oh no, it's not. There is the quality. Quality is everything. The quality of food that you eat is directly related to the quality of life you lead.

Speaker 2: 10:36

So, looking in that mirror, that's where all your solutions. Next one is the toilet bowl. Do you like your creations in there? Is it good bowel movement? It should feel amazing. And so those are the best diagnostic tools. Before you start running to the doctor and getting blood tests or genetic tests from people that just want to sell you $10,000 worth of red light therapy or oxygen machines or bake Well, they try and tell them it's supplements and they make you go see a doctor. And then what they're selling you is steroids, and they're not telling you because it's. It's couched in like testosterone replacement therapy or hormone supplementation therapy, and this is bullshit. It's drugs, right? These are coming from labs in china, you know and there's a lot of that happening right now it's everywhere it is rampant, yes, and I'm

Speaker 2: 11:24

here to break the spell, because the people that have capitalized on some form of natural or kind of the health world, which was dave, asprey with the biohacking and then now Brian Johnson but these guys are all big steroid and peptide injectors, right, this is the truth. They're trying to make you look like, oh, I'm just a natural person. Well, both of those guys have gray skin, right, and I'm a sun worshiper. I want to see the vitality in your eyes, skin, hair and nails. And so, if you dig past the surface, they don't lead with steroids and peptides or injections and synthetic injections. But they're not shy about it either, and once you scratch the surface a little bit, it's synthetic injections. This is what it is. You're not selling health, and we all saw what happened to Sharon Osbourne. This stuff starts eating your tissues the micro dosing of the ozempic and they they're casting it as innocuous, like it's not that harmful. You're just amino acids that are praised in the right way, and you know, okay, when I was younger, they called it steroids and that was illegal.

Speaker 3: 12:33

That's true. Yes, correct, yes.

Speaker 2: 12:36

And look, I'm not faulting the end user, but I am the influencers. Like the liver king that has 2.1 million people following him. He's saying he's only eating liver and testicles and he's selling dehydrated liver and organs. And then come to find out on the emails that were intercepted. He's shooting $12,500 worth of human growth hormone and other anabolic steroids each month. You guys know this right.

Speaker 3: 13:04

No, I have not heard this.

Speaker 2: 13:06

And then, when he starts going off of it and trying to live a natural life, he starts losing his mind and he gets arrested for the whole Joe Rogan thing, which could have been obviously a PR ploy as well. But the man looks like he's aging and losing his mind and he was injecting 12. That was three years ago. That story broke, but he went meteoric right. He went straight up. Yeah, paul Saladino was in business with him. He was. You know, they're selling the desiccated liver, which can be a good product, but people uncovered a lot of that stuff as well. It wasn't grass-fed, so there's a lot of illusions that are out there. So we have to, you know, yeah, totally, and getting back to your intuition, that's really where it's at well, it's so interesting.

Speaker 4: 13:51

I mean you start with looking in the mirror and I just think about the society that we live in and I did a silent retreat a few weeks ago where I had to unplug from everything and just how, what a big difference it made in my life to just have nothing and be in nature and all that want it to be very easy. I don't want to have to do the hard work. I don't want to have to spend the time to be healthy or to research what I'm eating. They just want something fast. Give me a pill, it's easy and then I can. I can be healthy and look young and all that stuff.

Speaker 2: 14:24

Well, you ever heard the thing marriage is hard, divorce is hard, working for yourself is hard.

Speaker 4: 14:39

Owning your own business is hard. Choose your hard, yep. So there you go. Yeah, you have to choose your hard, and most people want to choose the easy with every part of their lives and there's no free lunch and there's no free lunch. And I also the cost difference. I lost a friend. She was 30 from college and she dropped out of a heart attack and she was a single mom, three young kids working two jobs, and she lived off of coupons and they didn't have coupons for healthy stuff. It was like coupons for double bags of chip, and so that's what she survived and fed her family on. And I'm just like how do we shift this so that the stuff that is healthy, that's organic, that is affordable for every average Joe?

Speaker 2: 16:07

I don't know Well, I have an answer for that because I've been in business for a long time. And so you either pay now, pay later, pay the farmer or pay the doctor. It's your choice. I grew up homeless as a child, so I have bootstrapped myself to success. Mindset is everything. If we play the victim, then we get what we get.

Speaker 2: 16:29

The big part of the problem is the indoctrination for the industrial age school system, which teaches us to defer to another authority and we can only make so much money. And so I like the entrepreneurial journey because you break free of the conditioning. I ain't saying it's easy, and most people like most sports, it's hard to make it right, but at least if you start going for yours, or even at the bare minimum, you miss the mark on that level of success. But you write a book and you become someone else and you go in the direction of where your heart is leading you, but putting yourself look, I can't function if I don't eat well and poop well and have arthritis and back pain and neck pain, and so it's in my best interest to invest all my money in my health.

Speaker 2: 17:17

I have had poor investments real estate, precious metals, this, that and the other thing won some, lost some. But I'll tell you one thing I have always invested in my health fresh squeezed juices from juice bar and organic foods and organic farms and organ meats and home cooked meals and only eating out at really good restaurants, et cetera, when available, and so, and doing that for years, and years and years, and the dividends are paying. I have people that call me about cancer for decades now and I've been telling them pay attention to yourself. You may not be able to save your mother, brother, father, sister, uncle or whatever. And now my peers are calling me and they have cancer or other kind of disease. So pay now, pay later, pay the farmer, pay the doctor it's your choice.

Speaker 3: 18:05

That's a big piece and that was actually a message that was close to heart. A few months ago I was visiting with a girlfriend who is going through her second round of cancer treatment in the last two and a half years and we were talking about supplements that we were taking and I said, oh, you know, there was a supplement that she was taking, I that we were taking. And I said, oh, you know, there was a supplement that she was taking. I said, oh, yeah, I've looked into it, but it's kind of expensive. And she looked at me she goes well, that's relative. After we had just like discussed the cost of her cancer treatment and I was like, okay, that was like the lesson in that moment, I stopped and I was like, yeah, do you pay the hundred pay now or pay the doctor at the end of it all? You're going to pay eventually. So it's taking control of when you're going to make that payment and what's going to look like.

Speaker 4: 18:47

What you're investing your money in.

Speaker 3: 18:48

Yeah, correct, correct.

Speaker 2: 18:50

And most people don't realize that most of the world is subsidized by drug money. Yeah, across the board. I live in Scottsdale, arizona. This is a medical destination. So all the big real estate people that are here and this is all supported by drug money. And we think drug money because it's legal. And if you guys haven't read the Flexner report, you know the Rockefellers. They funded all that stuff so that they could get these universities to be. You know you can't treat, mitigate or diagnose anything unless you've gone through a state approvedapproved, medical licensed doctor. It's all gatekept and controlled and it's subsidized, all of it's subsidized. People don't realize that Like building a business as a holistic practitioner, it's tough man. I mean it's not like people are running down the street to knock on my door for me to tell them to go to bed by 10 and move their body.

Speaker 3: 19:47

You don't have to tell us twice. Firm believer in that, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 19:53

There's tons of research.

Speaker 3: 19:55

Yeah, those are the easy things Troy right Like just getting the right amount of sleep. Yeah, it does not cost you anything.

Speaker 2: 20:01

That's correct. Yeah, when you shake it all down, you know that's why the biohacking, the gadgets, the gimmicks and the drugs, it's like just get back to nature. You're going to need grounding is so important. You're going to need some good sunlight, like when you wake up. That's very important as well, and I know people live in Northern climates, but you can still get the magnetism from the earth.

Speaker 2: 20:19

Get grounded, hug a tree, move your body. I mean buy a bicycle or a standing desk, walk backwards. You can sit on a Swiss ball. I mean there's so many things that you can do to mitigate the impingements of the hips and the tightening of the psoas that creates the back pain and people get into a sedentary lifestyle. There's so many things that you can do. I mean, think about it. We used to move all day, every day. It was just built into our physiology and our biology and so, and our psychology, right, going out and getting fresh air. As soon as the sun comes up, it's like, okay, got to get the water, got to get the wood, got to get the food. You know this is built into us and just in the last 200, 250 years, you know all of that has changed. We've been pretty domesticated.

Speaker 3: 21:04

Yeah, absolutely. Well, you mentioned that you're going to do. Is it a 10 day silent retreat? Is that what you said you're heading into here shortly.

Speaker 2: 21:11

Yes, vipassana, dhammaorg, d-h-a-m-m-aorg is taught by S N Goenka and it's an ancient technique taught from the Buddha, like 2,600 years ago, and it was prophesied that 2,500 years after his death it would be resurrected. And my teacher, s N Goenka, got his teaching in 1969. I think he sat I did the math on all the courses he sat. There was a book that he had and he had sat like I don't know. I wanted to say it was like 30 years of his life, like he sat a long time and I met him before he died and so he just teaches it, pretty strict teacher to student.

Speaker 2: 21:46

It's called Vipassana, which is insight meditation, and they have 140 centers worldwide. Last time I checked I haven't sat one in quite a few years, but I did at one point. I sat 11 within six years and was sitting two hours a day when I healed from alcoholism and so it really helped me. And where else can you go to get away from Wi-Fi? Where else can you go to get away from the cell phone period? I don't know too many places. Maybe if I go with somebody in the outback and maybe up in the mountains where you guys live or something.

Speaker 3: 22:22

I was going to say we've got some spots, wyoming's got some spots, wyoming's got some spots, we'll find them. We're on hunt for them all the time, my partner and I, so we search for them.

Speaker 2: 22:31

Yeah, so yeah, it will be a disconnect. It's not a walk in the park. People think, oh, meditation for 10 days. Oh, you know, your knees and back and like your emotions are all stored in your body and so they start. It's real business, so I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 3: 22:48

That's fabulous. I love that. Okay, Troy, in terms of what you have going on in your life or with Certified Health Net, what's on the horizon?

Speaker 2: 23:00

What do we have to look forward to that you'd like to share with our listeners? Well, the biggest thing I'm building, and been building for the last year or so, is my online community. I mean, I've been building my online community for 20 years, but we consolidated all my curriculum and everything on the Circle app. You can find it on my website it's therealonescom and I keep everything very simple and just constantly reminding people about these fundamental principles how to optimize their breathing mechanics, their circadian hygiene, their movement. You know I prescribe walking to people Like walking's the best exercise for human beings.

Speaker 2: 23:32

Go walk for an hour, right, you'll watch the weight come off of you. Make sure that you're getting grounded. You'll see the inflammation come out of you. You know, to get into the more advanced stuff herbal medicine and fasting that's a little bit more advanced stuff. Herbal medicine and fasting that's a little bit more advanced, and I often have herbalists as teachers and experts come on and teach there as well.

Speaker 2: 23:51

Exercise physiologists I teach meditation and Qigong on there as well, and so that's the biggest excitement is really the online community, and the biggest part about my business plan is to make enough money to automate all my social media so that I can make free content for people, and so, after making content for over 20 years and really help people, some of my videos go viral and then people get off the couch and they start moving and they start healing their body and they didn't do much, or they started walking or they started sourcing pure water, they started paying attention more and they start moving the needle forward into the direction of looking and feeling better, and so I've witnessed miracles doing this for many years, and so I've got millions of people that have watched my videos and I've got thousands of students online Amazing.

Speaker 3: 24:42

I love that. And Certified Health Nut on all platforms. Is that correct?

Speaker 2: 24:46

Pretty much. Certifiedhealthnutcom on X on Mr Health Nut Okay.

Speaker 3: 24:51

Okay.

Speaker 2: 24:51

Certified Health Nut everywhere. It's easy Google it, chat GPT.

Speaker 3: 24:55

Fabulous. Oh my gosh Troy, is there anything that you'd like to leave our listeners with that we haven't touched on today?

Speaker 2: 25:00

Yeah, just that. You're the miracle, you're the sound of reason that everyone's looking for. So just awaken to the presence of God inside of your own soul. It's all there, beautiful.

Speaker 3: 25:11

Wow, I think that's a fabulous place to stop. I think that is great. Oh my gosh, troy, thank you. Thank you for joining us, thank you for sharing some insight and background into your personal journey and the work that you're doing and the company's doing and kind of the mission moving forward, and thank you for making a difference in people's lives. I know it's we always in our world where like one life changed is is our goal, like, as long if we can touch and have an impact on one person, then it was worth it. So thank you for continuing to do that and continuing that space.

Speaker 2: 25:43

Well, you're welcome. You touched my life today, so thank you. You guys have great energy.

Speaker 3: 25:48

Thank you, thank you. We really enjoy this and we get excited to connect and meet with new people and learn new things. We're always taking notes and figuring out. Okay, here's where I can make some small tweaks or adjustments in my life. I know that I have some things that I need to look at and one thing that you touched on for me just my personal takeaway that I kind of take for granted. Here in Colorado, we're fortunate to have great water and I just drink Colorado water because it's fabulous, and I don't do much research beyond that. But I'm probably on the road 40 to 50% of the year and I don't take that into consideration when I'm traveling, and I need to be aware of that, because what's happening to me you know 40% of the time. So I, too, learned some things that I'm going to apply to life. So thank you.

Speaker 2: 26:29

Love it Great. I love the name of your podcast. I mean, resilience is very important and you know it's a good idea to become strong and anti-fragile.

Speaker 4: 26:37

Ultimately, Thank you for what you're doing. You, you're pretty amazing.

Speaker 3: 26:41

Exactly Love it, thank you.

Speaker 3: 26:42

Well, when you roll out or come out of this 10-day meditation with the next level because we know that that's going to happen we'd love to have you back so you can share that next thing with our listeners. But in the meantime for our listeners, you all know, if you want to learn more about what's happening in the world of RegNet Resilience, head on over to RegNetResiliencecom and we will make sure that we put choice contact information, certified health net information and the circle link in the show notes so you can head on over there and check them out. Until next time, we'll see you all soon. Have a good one. Bye, everyone.

Speaker 1: 27:15

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