Why Your Friend Who Texts "Have You Done It Yet?" Is Your Secret Weapon

Ever notice how the hardest part of a journey is often just taking that first step? When Pam received a text from a friend asking "Have you done your run yet?" it became the catalyst that transformed two years of running procrastination into action. That simple accountability moment sparked not just the planned one-mile run, but an unexpected three-mile journey that reignited her passion for clarity and momentum.

Momentum is psychological magic - once we overcome initial resistance, we often exceed our own expectations. This psychological principle applies to everything from fitness routines to creative projects and business goals. The hosts share personal stories about how scheduling priorities, creating accountability systems, and breaking large goals into manageable chunks has transformed their productivity and helped maintain forward motion even through challenging times.

One particularly powerful concept discussed is the distinction between "should goals" versus "joy goals." Should goals originate from external expectations and comparison, while joy goals emerge from genuine internal desire. Understanding this difference explains why some aspirations energize us while others repeatedly fall to the bottom of our to-do lists despite their apparent importance.

The conversation also explores practical tools like "friction audits" to identify obstacles preventing progress, leveraging technology appropriately, and creating environments that support rather than undermine our goals. These strategies transform overwhelming ambitions into achievable steps that build momentum through consistent small wins.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Reigniting Your Inner Fire
• 5:41 Finding Momentum After Long Breaks
• 11:22 The Power of Accountability Partners
• 17:54 Breaking Habits and Building Routines
• 23:08 Creating Intentional Goals That Stick
• 30:14 Leveraging Technology for Personal Growth

Transcript

RR Intro: 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. Resilience where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

Natalie: 0:41

Welcome back to another episode of Reignite Resilience. I am your co-host, natalie Davis, and I am so happy to be back with all of you. I feel like it's been some time since recording, but, of course, joining us is your co-host, pam Cass. Hey, pam, how's it been? Hello, it is going really good. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I like when we get like content, ideas in the moment, as we're living through it, as we're doing it, as we're living it.

Pamela: 1:08

Yeah, and I was. I was sharing with you. And it brings me to a point and I'll I'll say that in a second, but I was telling you that. So my daughter called me, probably at the beginning of this year, and was like hey, mom, will you do this half marathon with me in October? And at the time I was like, oh, it's not till October. Plenty of time, we're good, I don't even need to start training till July.

Natalie: 1:31

Because why start training in January? Why would you?

Pamela: 1:34

do that. And, of course, last time I ran was when I did the half marathon in Napa, like two years ago. So actually I think it was exactly two years ago this week ago. So actually I think it was exactly two years ago this week. So I'm like that's two years of not running, and so I kept putting it off and putting it off. And then it was June. I'm like, oh, I need to start running. And I was putting it off and it's not like I'm not working out, like I'm doing this like four to five days a week, this other workout. So I just came up with the excuses like, well, I'm doing this, I don't have time to run, I'm really busy, blah, blah, blah. And so it's July 18th, 19th, july 19th today. So I should have started running July 1st and.

Natalie: 2:20

I have come up with 19 days of excuses not to do it.

Pamela: 2:22

And I told a friend. I was like oh, I got a busy day so I'm not going to be able to do my normal workout, so I'm just going to go for a run. I get up this morning at five and again I'm like yeah, I don't need to do it today. I got a lot of stuff I got to get done before I go to work and so I just was settled into, I'm not going to do and I'm drinking my coffee, enjoying myself. And then I get the text message from the friend so have you done your run yet? I was like so I started to come like text back with all these excuses as to why, well, I'm doing this and I got this. And I was like maybe I'll do it tomorrow. And then I was like no, dang it. And it was 6.45 in the morning by then. So I'm like no, I haven't done it yet. I'm enjoying my coffee. I'm going to go at seven With no intentions of going at seven, they wouldn't know. So I'm like okay.

Natalie: 3:15

And then I like You're like I'm going to go at seven and your subconscious brain is like girl, no, we're not.

Pamela: 3:27

You're. Just, brain is like, girl, no, we're not, you're not going. And so I put the phone down, looked at my dog. I was like, oh, son of a gun, all right, just, you're gonna do this, you're gonna do this. And of course, everything was exactly where it needed to be, because I've not run in two years, so it's all there. I had to dust off the tennis shoes because they were a little dusty, yes. So I put it on and I was out the door by 6 5858.

Pamela: 3:45

So before seven, and I'm like I'm doing a mile, that's it. I'm just gonna be short, I'm just gonna do this quick loop. Yeah, I start running and then it's quiet out and it was cool and there was nobody out. And then I see a hot air balloon and then I like this kind of feels good and I get to the place where I needed to turn. I was like, no, I think I'm gonna go farther.

Pamela: 4:10

And so then I kept finding myself, no, I'm gonna go a little farther, I'm gonna go a little farther.

Pamela: 4:14

So I ended up doing three miles, which is not much, but it is a lot when you haven't run for three years. And on that I was like, oh my gosh, this is a great topic to talk about in maybe one of my Sunday messages or in my blog about momentum is when it's that initial just starting and then you start getting a momentum and then you want to just keep pushing because you're getting those little wins. You're like, oh my gosh, I passed this stretch, I haven't had to stop. I can actually breathe blah, blah, blah. Gosh, I passed this street, I haven't had to stop, I can actually breathe blah, blah, blah. And so I remember the last time I was running, training for half marathon, is the clarity in my mind and what the ideas that come to my head when I'm on a run and I was like, gosh, I miss this, I miss this. And then here we are, our guests didn't show up, so we're like okay well, let's bring it to the listeners Exactly.

Natalie: 5:11

Well, that's and I shared with Pam, like they. You know there's that saying that says the hardest part of running a marathon is putting on your shoes right. Like that's the. That's the challenge. And I know during the pandemic, if we go back to that season, many of us were probably in the best shapes of our lives because we were getting like two days in and I remember getting up and it was athletic wear on the bottom and a blazer and a shirt at the top. But I felt that if I started my day by having the yoga pants or the yoga shorts on the bottom, then I would at least get a workout in and I actually did. I know that some people just made that their standard Zoom attire.

Pamela: 5:43

I actually did the workout I found a white sports bra with a black blazer.

Natalie: 5:47

nobody knows the difference no one knows the difference. Nobody knows the difference.

Pamela: 5:50

Yeah, just don't get up, don't stand up, stand up with your your athletic pants on you don't do that, yes exactly.

Natalie: 5:59

No, that's so good for you for doing the run today, because I mean two years it was. It was definitely two years ago this season because it was like Virgo season. It was around this time because, heads up, we're heading into Virgo season if y'all don't know.

Pamela: 6:10

Yes, and it is a season, just so y'all know. And we are both Virgos.

Natalie: 6:15

Yes, there's a lot of Virgo energy. If y'all have not picked up on that in all of this time, it's all on this podcast, but it was around this time and that was a good run. But you, there was a different piece because you had friends that you were running with when you did that run, right. So, like you're, you're like, well, I gotta practice, like I've got to train, because I don't want to be the person that's like slowing us all down or what happened right. Like you, kind of set that, yeah, yeah absolutely, and so, yeah.

Pamela: 6:41

So when you have those people that will reach out have you done your run yet or that you know you're going to be running with or doing something with, that's holding you accountable because you're like you don't want to be that one person that can't finish the race, and so it does make a huge difference. And man, it's just doing that initial first run after that period of time. It's kind of like when you're in the routine of doing a habit consistently and then you go on vacation or you get sick and you stop that habit, Starting it again is like the hardest thing, and so it's almost you know, I almost use the Mel Robbins kind of five, four, three, two, one and then get up and go, and so I think that that's what I ended up doing, just to get my like get your tush up and go You're not going to be able to lie to the friend and like oh yeah, it was a good run.

Natalie: 7:38

Well, listen, that was funny, because when you said that you got the text, I was like my first response to Pam was like I didn't ask you to be my accountability partner in this moment, I don't need you to check in.

Pamela: 7:48

Why do you have to be such a downer? Why do you have to throw that at my face?

Natalie: 7:52

Exactly, I was having a lovely time enjoying my coffee and doing laundry. Are we talking about running?

Pamela: 7:59

No, I did not need to even have that put into my head, but I wouldn't have done it if they hadn't sent me that text. I do not need to even have that put into my head, but I wouldn't have done it if they hadn't sent me that text. So absolutely, absolutely, Super grateful for it.

Natalie: 8:08

So well, I think one of the things we're chatting about just kind of our workout regimen that we have right now. And I've picked up a new thing just within the last 90 days oh, no, 60 days, it's only been 60 days since I've started this but there's this facility called Hot Works. I'm not sure you can open. I have no affiliation or connection, but if you want to join I'll get you a referral link. Sure, but I have not. I have no connection or ownership into Hot Works, but they're basically like high intensity or isometric workouts in a heated sauna up to 130 degrees, and so I started out like slow. You know, I'm like let's start at 105. Like that's not too hot, that's normal temperature here in my part of the world. I've worked my way up to 120 degrees.

Natalie: 8:50

But as you talk about like breaking that habit, I also was on the road all last week, literally out of town, for seven days and so seven days of breaking my normal morning routine. I was so happy to get back and into the process and practice of getting back into the gym because there's there's short workouts, right. So I'm just getting being able to get back into the gym and I was actually excited to get back into that space and get my routine again. It's fun to have those breaks in the routine. Don't get me wrong. We all need to take a break and travel and experience our friends and things of that nature. But it was definitely. It's hard when you step out of it. I also feel like I went through a little bit of detox because all of the wine that I had while I was gone needed to make its way out of my system.

Pamela: 9:41

Well, there's that, and then there's that.

Natalie: 9:45

But it is like the momentum and the commitment. I think those are like the two pieces and like, as you were saying that, pam, like I feel that applies in in everything, because if I'm working on like a big project and I know that I'm not going to be able to complete it that day or that week or even in that month, I'll start to get distracted by little things that I know that I can complete. Right, it's like.

Natalie: 10:08

Oh, you know, what I can do right now is clean out my raised beds, and I'll know that I'll get that done today.

Pamela: 10:13

And so it's like a small win.

Natalie: 10:15

It's a total distraction, but it keeps you going right. It's like, okay, I can keep going because I was able to actually get that done and complete it and then go back to the project. For me I've got to have those victories along the way, because if I don't, it's like you're just working and spinning the wheel without those wins and you're like you get to mile one and you're like I'll just turn around here, we're done.

Pamela: 10:39

We're done here right, that's such a good point and I'm very much the same way. And it was about three months ago and you and I have a mutual friend, rachel Jane Groover, from the Awakend School, and she does a quarterly VIP kind of meeting, that it's a three-hour thing, and she introduced a few things to us and one of the things she had us do was to first of all pick your three business goals, pick your three personal goals. And then she said ask yourself, is it a should goal? Meaning I should do it because of what people are telling me, what I heard, the comparison baloney. And then, what is a joy goal? Because chances are if it's a joy goal, because chances are if it's a joy goal, you're going to do it because it's something you're excited about doing. If it's a should goal, you're probably going to find every reason under the sun not to put your tennis shoes on and go run. And then she had us. So then we pick them. Here's our joy goals. And then she goes now you need to take it and create an action plan for it.

Pamela: 11:44

And so what I did when we were in that session because she gave us time to work I was like I'm going to plug this into chat GPT. And so I take it. I go into chat GPT and I said I have this project, I have 90 days to complete it. I'd like you to create a 90 day plan, working five days a week, knowing that I only have about 35 minutes or 45 minutes a day to work on it. What are small things that I can accomplish in that amount of time over the next 90 days? And it created this detailed like down to the smallest things.

Pamela: 12:19

And then I basically took that because she said now you got to put it into some sort of a project management system. So I took it, I uploaded it to Asana and Asana, you can use their free program. I uploaded it into Asana, I assigned it to myself or, if it was, somebody else could do it, I'd sign it to somebody else. And then I put a timestamp on it, like it has to be done by this day. And what I loved about it is, first of all, I got the notification hey, this is due. And so it prompted me. And then it was small enough that I could do it and check it off. And let me tell you, when you check it off, you're like yes, and Asana does this.

Natalie: 12:54

Like fireworks and you get like the confetti and all of that.

Pamela: 12:58

Yes, there's a unicorn that flies across the screen. I don't know.

Natalie: 13:02

I might've dreamed that, but I think you're right and I do love that.

Pamela: 13:07

And I was like, okay, this is so. And then one of the things she taught us was doing what's called a friction audit of that. And so, basically, a friction audit is looking at where's their friction in your life that is preventing you from moving forward with these goals and completing these action plans. And so one of the very first ones is your self-talk. You know, it's your fear, it's your doubt. Your self-worth is one of the key ones. One of them is distractions. Like where are their distractions? One of them is your environment. Is your environment such that you're not able to get it done? And unfortunately't remember the fourth one, but I was like that's brilliant. So it's what are my goals? Break them into action plans, get them into a system where you're going to get reminders and accountability, figure out what are the friction points that might prevent any of these from happening, and then come up with a plan on how we can overcome those frictions.

Natalie: 15:02

And I think environment is probably the one that is the silent friction for most people that they don't realize, right, and it's whatever that space your household, your friends, family, loved ones, your coworkers and your peers, the people that you're surrounding yourself with constantly If you're not able to elevate yourself to a place that you can keep your focus on that goal, not only will they be a distraction, but they probably are not going to be in a space to support and uplift that goal for you, right? And nor is that their job. That's not their job, no, not their job at all. It's not their responsibility to do that. Yeah, so that's, that's a big piece. So identifying those frictions, that's huge.

Pamela: 15:41

And I love that. And then to your point about the working out and those taking those breaks, and so the place that I work out, so I do something that's called Legree. I was introduced to it last end of last year. Legree is like Pilates, except it is very slow movements to the point where you're almost doing a 12 count in one squat, where you're slowly squatting for 12 minutes and you go to a muscle failure. So your muscles are shaking. So you're at this point where you're completely everything is shaking and I luckily they have it where you can book your class up to a month, and so I have every class booked through the middle of August right now.

Pamela: 16:24

And then I build my schedule around that. And I think that's a really important one for people to think about, because our health, our relationships, our self-care is usually that thing that kind of makes it on our calendar or it doesn't, and and it's just kind of filled in and then it's most, oh, I don't have time to do it, like the running, I haven't had it on my calendar. So I just I'm like, yeah, I'll do it, but I didn't.

Natalie: 16:47

Absolutely Like if it's not well, first of all, for the people that operate in life without a calendar. Kudos to you. I don't know how you do it, but that is one of the big things when we talk about like our professional lives, if it's not on my calendar it's not happening.

Natalie: 16:59

Right, I come. If it falls off of my calendar, I'm sorry I'm not going to be there, but we don't do the same thing for the things that you just mentioned our health, our personal relationships, our families, right, Like we don't put those things on the calendar, or if you don't put those things on the calendar, those are the easiest things to fall off. A hundred percent.

Pamela: 17:17

Yeah, If it's not scheduled, it's not going to happen. And I challenge everybody If it's not on your calendar, probably not going to happen. Yeah, and what will happen is it'll get filled in by social media, overeating over drinking. Busy work that makes you feel like you're working but you're not really doing anything. You're not really doing anything. Yeah, Makes you feel like you're working but you're not really doing anything, but you're not really doing anything. Yeah, You're not being productive but you're getting something done?

Natalie: 17:40

Yeah, at all At all. A friend of mine, we had lunch together. I want to say it was like two or three weeks ago and she absolutely knows this, because we had lunch the day of the lunch meeting. She sent me a text and she said is this still on your calendar? I'll see you there, see you in a few hours. Right, so that was before the day of. But in order for us to set that lunch meeting, we scheduled it 45 days prior. And it's because we both operate in that same space, like, and we wanted to have time to connect, right, we weren't doing a 30 minute quick lunch meeting, we wanted to carve out when can we have 90 minutes to sit down and actually talk without the distractions all around us? And so, 45 days prior, we saw each other in an event and we and we said in passing, hey, we should get together and do lunch. And both of us were like yeah, yeah, yeah. And then she circled back around and she goes where's your calendar? And I said, oh, exactly.

Pamela: 18:32

How many times do we do that? We run into somebody and we're like let's do lunch, let's grab coffee, and then it never happens, and then it never happens.

Natalie: 18:40

So she made it a point to get on the and she was very grateful that we were able to. I was grateful for her to to understand and understand our scheduling process right, like that's understanding and appreciating. It is what I was going to say, but and it may sound rigid to some people. Again, it gives me structure. I know where I'm going to be, I know what I'm going to get there. There are times that I'm in multiple places, yeah.

Pamela: 19:03

And I think it allows us to be laser focused on the things that are important to us, a hundred percent. Yes, if I'm not making sure my workout is on there, then I'm saying to myself that that's not important. If I don't have designated time to spend it with my family, my friends, my grandson, it's not going to happen, oh yeah. And so it has to be intentional. Our calendars have to be intentional, and I'll take it this is kind of fun and I think maybe mentioned this before creating that board of advisors. Oh yeah, oh yeah, on chat, gbt. And so I have my board of advisors that I will like.

Pamela: 19:39

I did it this morning. I was like, okay, so coming into the next next week, what should my schedule be? And so then I have Abraham Lincoln, I have Brene Brown, I have Simon Sinek, I have Elon Musk, which I don't know. He just popped up on there. I don't know where he came from and I was like this is a new one. Why is he in here? Who else was in there? That is a neutral statement. I was like why did he pop up in here Like that's? He was not in there before, so I don't know, bill.

Natalie: 20:06

Gates, you just entered the room on your own, okay, thank you.

Pamela: 20:09

Like where did you come from? Oh, my gosh, who was Steve jobs? I think I miss a John Maxwell. So all of them gave me okay, here are the things that you should be focusing on. Oprah is in there, yeah. So here's what you need to focus on. And then it gives me a summary of here's your week. And then it says would you like us to create a PDF of your week with check boxes? And I'm like, yes, please. And so now I've got this PDF with my checklist of all the things that I need to focus on to move the things forward. Because if you guys don't know is we've got this book that we're working on and we are now in the production stages where we are working on the cover and the feel of the inside of the book. It is getting real like it's real.

Natalie: 20:53

It is like I feel that every phase of book writing or becoming an author is challenging. The writing process was challenging and now I'm realizing, like the production part is a challenge, the launch phase is a challenge. I've already, I mean just like and looking at next steps as we start to launch the book later this year and in our like, all transparency in my mind, I was like, oh, we'll write a book. This was Q4 of last year. We'll write a book and we should have it printed and ready to go by Q2. Yes, exactly, we were like Q2 of the next year, it'll be done.

Pamela: 21:31

Here we are in Q3 of the following year, only to realize it is going to take at least 12 more weeks for us.

Pamela: 21:43

Yeah, so q4 it will be coming, and so watch for more information, for early orders, and we're excited, I'm excited about it and but then trying to figure out like, what's our cover gonna look like, and then just all of that is just feels a little overwhelming because you're like you want to get it right. That's first. I mean you want to, you want it to be, because it's been a labor of love and this is just the first book in a series of books and so for those of you who are listening, so we are really excited about this, but watch for more information. But this would not have happened because this was one of the goals, because I had gotten into this place where I was kind of stuck. I needed to call editors and get that editing process started and I was just dragging my feet and so that was my, that was my 90 day. All right, girl, you're doing it. And so and I did, because I followed everything I needed to do Follow the checklist.

Natalie: 22:38

Yeah, here's.

Natalie: 22:39

I mean even getting to that point, like we talk about you know the, the hardest step being putting your shoes on right For running a marathon.

Natalie: 22:45

And you talk about like utilizing chat, gpt, and it's so interesting because I have been y'all, don't come at me, I've been that person that's like, yeah, this will pass. I don't, I don't really need to plug into this. And then we have just a friend of ours and a mutual speaker within our industry that focuses on AI is doing a 30-day road to her 50th birthday, or 30-day journey to the road of 50, or something like that, and she gets on every morning and she does just a quick little snippet about her utilizing AI to help in, like her leveraging herself, which is huge, like she's. I mean she's utilizing AI in ways that I never even imagined and I mean she's like automating her life, automating systems, and here she is already operating at an elevated level and she's taking the next or taking 30 days to leverage herself even more. And there was something about that video that she did. I want to say it was the first or second video that she shared to me.

Natalie: 23:47

And yeah, and I was like enough, natalie, it's not going away, because I did the exact same thing with Facebook. Just if I'm going to be completely honest, this is going to be my honesty episode. When Facebook came out, I was like I'm not doing this. I was on MySpace and I built out a very fabulous MySpace and now it's gone. I'm not doing this again. And I dug my heels in the ground and I refused to accept and embrace Facebook. Okay, clearly, I and I refuse to accept and embrace Facebook. Okay, clearly, I was wrong. And I had that moment in watching her video. I was like Natalie, I think you're wrong. I think AI is here to stay. Like, you better get on the bandwagon or get left behind.

Natalie: 24:21

And so I created a 30 day step-by-step for myself. Like, how do I start to utilize this platform? How can I utilize it in an effective way where it's not a distraction? Because there are times where I'm like I just want to sit in this thing and play and learn more, right, like I just want to keep digging deeper. I also don't need that. Like, I don't need it as a distraction. I need it to leverage myself. So I commit the first 30 minutes of my day to complete the task. Sometimes it takes 30 minutes, sometimes it doesn't they, they're just quicker. That's one of my commitments. So I'm on this journey 30 days of embracing AI in my business and in my life. I've come around y'all. I'm on Facebook too, so here we are.

Pamela: 24:58

It's so funny because I was introduced to Chachi BT last year. I can't. Was it last year or has it been longer than that? It might've been longer.

Natalie: 25:09

It might've been over. No, it was whale over a year ago Exactly.

Pamela: 25:11

Yeah, okay, anywhere it was definitely.

Pamela: 25:14

I want to say it was 2023, for sure it was definitely before it was big, like before many people actually knew about it. And it was so funny because I remember I had learned about it and then I was on a coaching call and I was talking to a client about it and at the time oh yeah, this has been a long time ago because my son's bedroom Jack and Jill bathroom, in between where I are my offices and his bedroom at the time he's not in there anymore and I will never forget he was getting ready for school. Oh my God, it was a long time ago. He was getting ready for school and I was talking about it and then I end the call and the door abruptly opens from the bathroom. How do you know about ChatGPT? And I'm like how do you know, about ChatGPT.

Pamela: 25:59

Mr Little High Schooler Like what do you know? He goes well, I just don't want to, don't be telling everybody. I don't want people to know about it, because then everybody's going to use it. Adorable, adorable. Don't tell nobody's going to know about it if I don't say anything. And I was like, and how are you using it, son?

Natalie: 26:19

like absolutely. This is for homework and paper. I think the kids embraced it much earlier than much earlier.

Pamela: 26:26

Yes, yeah so he was mortified.

Natalie: 26:28

That I do love that Dylan he's like, don't tell anyone.

Pamela: 26:32

It's a secret. Don't tell, no one will find out, because I am such an influencer.

Natalie: 26:40

He's like don't go telling your friends about it Like what are you talking about?

Pamela: 26:45

So it has been a few years and it's. I've just embraced the fact. It just makes my, my life easier because I can do things that I used to procrastinate in such a short amount of time. It's just so effective and it's not like I'm using it to do things for me. It's like I create something and then I put it in there and I say enhance this to make it professional, blah, blah, blah, and then it doesn't. I'm like, oh, I like that, and blah, and then it doesn't. I'm like, oh, I like that, and then I'll make some more changes. So it sounds like me, but yeah, it's been a life changer. Every time I use it I'm like where have you been my whole life?

Natalie: 27:19

I have. Well, here, I am like, welcome. I've just entered the room. You know, in 2025. That's all right. Right, you're here more than halfway through the year in 2025.

Natalie: 27:31

It's making that commitment right, like it's the intentionality of it and and I just know, I think it was a combination that and and I heard a speaker that said something you know like you can either embrace it and understand that it's here to stay or you can get left behind and and I see that happening in so many industries where people get caught up in the way that they used to do things, and I mean, this goes back. This is not just technology. No, people used to think the world was flat. Exactly, exactly. There's many that still do. Yes, there's many that still do. But here I remember, like my parents. Now, this is years and years ago. This would have been in the early 90s, when both of my parents were nurses, and I remember in the early 90s and they introduced, my mother worked in labor and delivery her entire life, and I remember when they brought in their charts onto devices like not even laptops, they were like desktops, like you had to go to the station and type in the nurse's notes.

Natalie: 28:29

And I remember her coming home and she's like they brought these computers in and now I've got to stay later to put in my notes in the chart in the computer. It doesn't make any sense. How am I supposed to pull the notes when I need them? I've got to go to the computer and it was this whole thing. It was this whole thing because they brought computers in. She was used to charts like written charts, she's. They brought computers in. She was used to charts like written charts. She's writing in her notes, she turns her chart in at the end of her shift and she moves on with life. She had to learn a whole new skill and you talk about nurses learning tech. They were not happy. No, this was in the early 90s.

Pamela: 28:59

I don't know what it's like now for the nurses, but well, now it's all there on an iPad and I mean it is so and just checking everything's connected and here's, I mean I'm aging myself here. I mean I remember my doctor's office, our family doctor. I remember going and the gals would sit up at the front to check you in and behind them was a wall of files like paper files. Oh yeah, I remember when they were going through the process of taking those and taking everything out of those and manually in putting it into computers and I'm just like holy crap.

Pamela: 29:36

And now you go in and there's nothing behind them. It's because everything is electronic and I love it because I can access my medical files on my phone. On an app, I can get prescription orders. I mean, I can pull up every file, everything.

Natalie: 29:50

But what's in that space now? Like there were rows and rows of medical records.

Pamela: 29:54

I had no idea the size of the doctor's offices haven't changed.

Natalie: 29:57

Like what now I'm like what replaced that?

Pamela: 29:59

What goes in that space? Now, I don't even know. I don't even remember the last time I was at a doctor's office oh, who is my doctor?

Natalie: 30:10

What's my name? What's your?

Pamela: 30:12

name. So my doctor that I had for a thousand years, like when I moved up here, he was my doctor when I was going to college. He was my doctor with all three of my kids. He retired, which was so selfish but he was such a great he was like probably one of the best. I think he was the best doctor I've ever had, where he just took the time If something was going on and he didn't know, he's like hold on and he would run and get his giant medical book and bring it back and he'd flip through and try to find stuff.

Pamela: 30:39

And he was just and he didn't just medicate you, he actually tried to figure out, like, what's going on, are there other things that we can do other than just a prescription? And so I so appreciated that. And then he retired and I was like dang it and I've not found my doctor yet. And that has been a very long time.

Natalie: 30:57

That's hard, that's a hard thing, that's a hard thing. And I have a doctor that I really like that I've had for about a year now, but he's in his seventies, so it's going to be a matter of time before. It's going to be a matter of time, yeah, before he retires, but he's, he's still very traditional in terms of how he practices and runs his practice and I appreciate that. That's what I'm used to, yeah, yeah, especially growing up with nurses, that our parents that were nurses, right, like I just have a whole different outlook on the, the medical industry and and anyways, from a historical context. But Absolutely.

Pamela: 31:29

Yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah.

Natalie: 31:31

Anyway, exactly. Well, you told our listeners to keep their eyes and ears open about the book. We'll have the book coming out. We'll make sure that we put all of that information on social media as we start to release, like ebook launch dates and actual book sale dates. We'll get all of that in your hands. We are really excited. I mean, we are literally knees deep in it, but it's exciting. We're still having fun. It's not there's I don't think that there's any challenges. We're still having a good time in doing it.

Pamela: 31:56

We're going to get it. It's not been one of those things. Oh, we got to do that. It's been because it's such a personal. So it makes it exciting and I'm a little excited about putting author underneath my name.

Natalie: 32:10

That too. That too. I don't know if there's any more room underneath. I know I was just thinking about that.

Pamela: 32:16

I'm like okay, let's see here. Professional speaker coach yes. Master author yes exactly.

Natalie: 32:26

It's like and and yes, there's a, there will be some. We're going to need some more space. Well, I, I'm I'm not going to need, I'm going to free up space towards the end of the day, which is a different announcement.

Pamela: 32:40

I think I'm the same way. It's like there's going to be some stuff that's got to be like. Okay, thank you, but I'm evolving into the next chapter.

Natalie: 32:47

Exactly.

Pamela: 32:48

Yeah, and I don't know what that's going to be.

Natalie: 32:49

And it's going to be amazing. Whatever it is, it's going to be amazing it is going to be.

Pamela: 32:57

That's the best part of life is we don't know where this path is going to take us. But, man, it's fun to just be in the moment right now and experiencing it, and not so much focusing on the end, but just focusing on the journey. That's kind of a hundred percent.

Natalie: 33:10

A hundred percent, oh my gosh, I love it. Well, you all know, you know the spiel. If you want to learn more about what's happening in the world of reignite resilience, head on over to reigniteresiliencecom, and if you've not subscribed to our think letter, go ahead and do so. You get more of this in written form. So they're short, they're easy to read and they give you little, bite-sized nuggets of things that you can actually apply to your life for the upcoming week. So if you're looking for ways to grow, committing to yourself to continue to grow and expand, those newsletters provide that for you. I'm really enjoying that too. Yeah, it's hard at work behind the scenes to get you additional value and tools that you can utilize in your life and in your business. So until next time, we'll see you all soon. Bye everyone.

RR Intro: 33:51

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