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Embracing Your Spiritual Gifts + Resiliency with Kevin White (part 2)
Kevin from Belief Crew takes us on a fascinating journey through the coming shift in consciousness projected for 2027. This transformation moves us from group-focused existence toward individual empowerment—where our personal growth directly lifts the collective consciousness.
The conversation delves deep into what holds entrepreneurs back from stepping fully into their calling. Kevin explains how anxiety, particularly around money, creates invisible barriers to fulfillment. "We want to preserve our retirement plan, preserve our bank account, and then add something on top of that," he notes, highlighting the contradiction in trying to hold onto security while simultaneously seeking transformation. This insight prompts us to question: are we creating enough space in our lives for new possibilities to emerge?
Perhaps most thought-provoking is Kevin's theory about trauma resulting from not understanding our spiritual gifts. "Trauma is basically not being loved through an experience that's painful," he explains, suggesting many of us cope with life because we haven't fully connected with our unique gifts or found ways to integrate them meaningfully. This perspective offers a fresh lens for understanding our struggles and potentially transforming them through self-discovery.
For those curious about practical steps, Kevin recommends exploring Human Design and Gene Keys assessments as starting points, along with being open to different healing modalities. His Belief Crew team offers retreats featuring aqua therapy, massage, and focused work on understanding gene keys—all designed to help participants connect with their authentic purpose.
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Pamela Cass is a licensed broker with Kentwood Real Estate
Natalie Davis is a licensed broker with Keller Williams Realty Downtown, LLC
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Speaker 2:What's happening in 2027? You can't just leave us hanging, you can't just yeah, you're like wait what so you're you probably should look at.
Speaker 3:Like I said, I'm not an expert in this area, but the general overview is that in the 1600s, the design shifted to be very group oriented.
Speaker 3:So you think about all of like churches and all these groups that came over the last, even the whole idea of the industrial revolution collaboration at a high level in a different way than we had been doing and now in 2027, it'll be shifting to the individual.
Speaker 3:So it's actually the cool thing about this shift is that each of us, as we grow, we will lift the whole world. So this is why it's important and with all of our partners and everyone that works with us, we teach that it's not about making these concepts like proprietary or like somehow coming up with a solution and focusing on well, we own this, it's our IP, or anything like that in the future, because whatever we knowledge we have, it just helps us to get to the next level, and then it's pretty much useless. You're there, moving on Right, and so I think that's why things are just going to be shifting. I don't know much about how all this all works, but it's interesting to have that perspective and then look at AI, for example, and realize, oh, this is giving us the space to do this, to really move up our energetic level as a whole consciousness, as a whole big community in the world.
Speaker 4:Wow, 2027. That's just around the corner community in the world.
Speaker 3:Wow, 2027 that's just around the corner. Yeah, and it's been. It's been happening for a long time I would say earliest like this has been prophesied or whatever you want to call it by different people. I've the earliest time I've heard this spoken was like 2004, so it's been happening for a long time and it's more if you think about all the influencers today, or all this focus as we change in the new economy. I think it's related to what I'm talking about here, where it's more about entrepreneurship, more about putting yourself out there in a way that we haven't in the past, or not sitting back in that corporate job that we can cope in and, however you want to look at it, yes, be comfortable, there we go. Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what it comes down to. That's just that comfort level. It's you're comfortable. Yes, that's awesome, that's awesome. So I think that's such a beneficial piece. As you talk about the clients that you're working with and the clients that you're attracting to your business, moving forward is that understanding that you're not coaching and working with them for what was, but also to their full potential, and also where the collective will be, which. That business model or even practice looks completely different from a business that you're structuring for success today.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, yeah, yeah. And that's that's where Jamie comes in. Like she, she can just like see the future with people Like I don't know. She just that's her gift. She literally you tell her what you're doing and she'll use your human design and your gene keys for sure. But she just has this innate knowing as to what fits for you and it's just totally her, her thing. And so that's really nice, because usually what happens is people actually come out of a call with her and say, oh, my goodness, that's way that is, you just blew my mind. And they're kind of a little overwhelmed because it's so so much right, like it's so big. And so that's why we've come up with the rest of our team to support, to support people and not being overwhelmed by that big vision that Jamie just came up with.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I imagine that could be very overwhelming.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 4:Or never experienced anything like that ever.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So then they're usually like, ah, maybe I don't need to talk to you for a little while, but then they always come back because they you know they're like, I'm going to chew on that for a minute.
Speaker 2:Let me get back to you.
Speaker 3:They're definitely not like. I want to talk to you tomorrow, Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cause their mind was just blown and they needed it.
Speaker 3:Yes, exactly, I love that. Talk to you tomorrow, right? Yeah, because their mind was just blown and they needed yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:So I love that.
Speaker 3:That is so great like when I first understand a little bit of that depth of what's possible for us, that can be really exciting, right. And then then we dive into the details of it, it's like, oh great, I have to show up like that, like I have to believe that, all right, I get to believe I have the opportunity to step into and believe fully that that's me, that that's how I show up in the world and that can be. I mean, it's very empowering when we get there, but in the meantime it's like I don't know, because it's usually hitting just going back to that hero story, it's hitting on the one deep fear that we have that put us in our comfort zone in the past, right, that's why we're trying to be comfortable there.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it got us to this point in life. So if you regret to that, it's okay. It's your comfort zone, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's the hard part is because we think we can just retreat, like let's go back to what was comfortable. But after you go down this road you really can't. It's just, it's just a mess, like you've. You've started to see what's possible. You know you have to step into it and going backwards is painful, right like it's. Suddenly you're like oh, I don't know if I can actually deal with that with the energy of where I was before. I can't do that. I can't be around the people even that I necessarily wanted to hang out with before. It's nothing wrong with them, I'm just in a different space and I can't do that anymore. So that's maybe the most unpleasant part of the message.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that seed is planted now and you can't go back.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it would hurt.
Speaker 2:It's just painful. Exactly. Spoiler alert. There you go, exactly.
Speaker 4:That's amazing, that's amazing yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, kevin, in the clients that you've worked with, that you and Jamie have had the opportunity to work with, what are some of the challenges that you see pretty much on repeat with your entrepreneurs that come before you, that we can maybe equip or give our listeners, if they're choosing to start this entrepreneurial journey, with some insight that will help them along the way.
Speaker 3:So everyone's different.
Speaker 3:I think that the big thing that I noticed, even for myself I'm still working on it a lot is this whole I don't know.
Speaker 3:I guess let's call it anxiety like the layers of the onion. When it comes to anxiety, it's kind of since I've been down here, I've noticed it a lot more, with people coming from the us and understanding, like I don't know what it is necessarily. I think there's a bunch of different factors, but it's almost like, in some ways, some of us at least the more career driven people, let's say have bought into and we have these different anxieties that are part of our daily life and then we don't realize how much they're affecting us. And so when we start to step into our calling, there's usually at least one big thing that we're struggling with. When that is around anxiety, something as simple as showing up online or networking or speaking all of like. You guys probably know that story pretty well, so I guess that's that's probably the number one reason why we try to get people down here at the beginning of the journey with with us, get them to Mexico and get some understanding of what's possible outside of that that space of anxiety that they're living in.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:When you talk about anxiety as an onion because just when we think that we've figured it out, or we figured it out just enough to hide it from the world so that they don't realize it, that's the reality is that you have to face it wholeheartedly, toe to toe.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the main one is money, and I'm totally not immune to this, but we start people with Kyle Cease's book, the Illusion of Money. So that's a good place to start Just understanding that our bank account, our retirement plan, all of that is not the success plan. That's not related to our calling. Like, if you think about the people who have done amazing things in the world, they didn't like figure out how to hold on to their retirement and meanwhile also do something right. And usually where we're starting in today's culture is we want to preserve that, preserve our retirement plan, preserve our bank account, and then add something on top of that.
Speaker 3:And what kyle tells us and what we teach at belief crew is that we can't do that. It's like holding on to something and then saying I want something different. Right, like we have to. There is no life script here of what you have to do, but we have to learn to really dig into what's behind that. Why are we individually choosing to have that safety and security before we make a move? And when we can figure that out, then we can start to get insight into, okay, what's my motivation for doing this and what's possibly the triggers and why I'm anxious about money.
Speaker 4:That's a huge one and I imagine it's a huge anxiety for most people I was going to say entrepreneurs, but most people.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Everyone, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the theory of creating the space, if I'm understanding you correctly, right Like it's so focused on holding on to what we currently have, then we can't, by any way, shape or form, create the space for the thing that we're wanting to create.
Speaker 3:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Or attract or build or whatever that may be.
Speaker 3:It's creating that space to allow the new thing in yes, if we write like a 30-year letter to ourselves, for example, or or do use hypnotherapy to go into the future or whatever, to kind of envision what's possible, we're going to see that investing in ourselves now could like vastly change the future.
Speaker 3:But what we tend to do is want to like bring ourselves and everything that we think right now along into the future, and that's really not going to work Like if we're going to, but if we go into the future, we're always going to make that choice to invest now. I mean, that was where my personal journey started is we? I got some money from my mom, who died in 2007, and then her trust was settled later, or actually it was through my grandparents, so it took a while and then we sold all our rentals and so we had this big like what are we going to do with all this? And I was having these conversations just meditating on it and it became very clear to me like, oh, we could invest in us, like. It was kind of like a strange moment of like duh right, like, out of all the things that is possible, why wouldn't we invest in us? And so that was the beginning of our journey.
Speaker 4:Well, I love that, because you're investing in the here and the now rather than hanging on to the money for what potentially may happen, correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Or not happen, or not happen yes exactly, or not?
Speaker 4:happen and it's so interesting that Natalie and I are both coaches as well and one of the hardest things for our clients I know my clients is you know, where do you want to be in five years? Where do you want to be? And they can't think that. All they can think about is like this year, Like no, no, no, I've never thought about it. I'm like, but what if you did think about that? What would that look like to you? And that's people to think about.
Speaker 2:Yes, A hundred percent is. And I know that you said 30 years from now. I know I was like that blew my mind. I'm going to do later this week a session with a group of leaders and and uh, part of that is talking about legacy leadership and and I actually was thinking about that today I was like, okay, 30 years from now, now 2055 and I started to get anxiety just in the preparation for a talk, looking at 2055 on my screen and I was like what in the world am I thinking? Where will I be in 2055? What does that look like? And that's a big piece to kind of uncover and tear apart so that you can, yeah, get there, yeah, yeah, it's, it's better to address that subject today than it is later.
Speaker 3:Right, like it's just. It's one of those things that we so we grew up. My wife is born in central wisconsin, we raised our family there and it's a place where you have all these paper mills and we had just story after story of these, usually men that worked in these mills and they worked hard, like it's well over 100 in the summer, long hours, you know, usually shift work, and so they all have the same dream like they get a couple days off so they, they can have a period for hunting now and then, and all that. But they all have the same dream of I'm going to retire, I've got my little shop, I'm going to do my hunting, whatever, and so many stories. Six months into retirement they die Like.
Speaker 3:So even Jamie's grandparents, who we love dearly, our grandma is a hundred percent Italian, they are just amazing folks. But like I go to their house and I'm like wow, you guys have so much to offer the world and you're just sitting here, and that's not completely true, but it is kind of, and I think that our generations are going to shift that, because I don't think as much as we appreciate the stability and what they gave us and maybe that was their calling in their time. In the future, I think we're going to want a lot of that wisdom after 80 years of living to come back and to help others and to get into that place where you can see that young people are spiritual. How can we serve them? How can we understand who they are and support them?
Speaker 2:I love that gosh I love that and I guess that's where we'll be in 30 yes, we'll be that wisdom that's at the other end, that's pouring back into we'll have to.
Speaker 3:We have to be because the kids today are by far the most spiritual kids that absolutely like they're. I mean, they probably will be still teaching us, but we will have to be in a place to be able to receive and to mentor them in some way. I don't know how, because I'm talking about like people on the spectrum, for example, I've had a chance to work with some of them and it's like they're so gifted. By the way, this isn't one of my subjects that I've really loved talking about recently. I think there's actually trauma from not understanding and embracing our gifts tell us more yeah, well, so trauma is.
Speaker 3:Trauma is basically not being loved through an experience. That's painful. Okay, when we work with people that have serious abuse at the worst case scenario like if the person is not able that abuse them, can't repent or whatever, or like say I'm sorry, which usually doesn't happen we always have that ground to retreat to, where they they can see how they can love themselves and receive love through the experience. Right, and so when you have love going fully through that experience, then it doesn't take away the pain, but you need that feeling of being connected and that you're embraced and loved through that painful experience. Well, I think that the same thing happens when that's where I think a lot of coping comes from is that we're not really, we don't understand how to know what our gifts are and we get little feedback about what they might be. But we don't always like connect to it fully and we don't necessarily know in this age like what to do with them.
Speaker 3:And I'm talking about as someone that uses my spiritual gifts a lot. It's still I don't fully know how to use them and I don't really know how to fit them into the economy. Let's say sometimes right, so I don't know. It's a theory, putting it out there, it's possible. That's one reason why we cope and that we can just acknowledge. Hey, it's a little bit traumatic. I see this especially with young kids that have no clue why they're able to see spirits or whatever right Like yeah, interesting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, more to come Exactly exactly as you can discover that, I think, or uncover that for yourself and share that with the world, because I, I definitely think that you're spot on there.
Speaker 2:There's a lot that it's one of the additional things that hold us back from finding our gifts, right, just even when you realize that you have a gift to discover and it, um, it brings me back to the person that and I and I apologize, I'll I'll research it and drop it in the show notes, but there's the quote that's like the the meaning of life, or the. Your purpose in life is to find your gifts and the meaning of life is to give it back to the world. Um, so like it's it this? It goes back to exactly that Like you spend this time, you realize that you have these gifts to uncover and discover, and then your charge is share it with the world. And the challenge I think I'll make this an I statement is when you realize what those gifts are and then you quote, unquote profit from it, right, because then it becomes part of the economy. Like you said, it's like now I've discovered this gift and I also need to pay my mortgage.
Speaker 3:So here here you are, world, yes, that's the hard part is, I think there's kind of like two different like like we're in this space in time where the old economy doesn't really work and the new one isn't fully established Right. So we have people that we work with. That it's like, oh, there might be some leanness in that shift, but there's always a way to be supported, even in the leanness period of time. It's just we way to be supported, even in the leanest period of time. It's just we have to be more creative.
Speaker 2:I was going to say this is probably not the time to take your foot off the gas Like this is the time you're pushing through, especially over the next five years moving forward. Don't let off on it, especially when you're on that journey of discovering it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, I think there's so many side gigs or whatever, right Like we hear that all over the news about, and I think that there's just a huge number of people involved in this revolution, from the what was to what is, and so that's. I think the cool part is that we don't necessarily have to understand all of it, right like, we just get to discover this together, and that's the beauty, really. If we start to understand what our gifts are is, we can start to appreciate the gifts we see in other people, and then we can start to see how we're all working together and that magic is happening.
Speaker 3:Like back to the hero's journey there, whenever the hobbit would use that ring, he didn't understand how to use it, he didn't understand what happened, he just knew he needed to be there and eventually, I think, he came to love that whatever happened, right, like, wow, this amazing stuff happened. I don't, maybe he did, he didn't tell it in the story Like, oh, this is what happened. And the more we get that feedback of being in our gifts and doing what we are really created to do is when we have the best, most fulfillment, the most joy. And then when we're doing something else. We're like huh, this doesn't really work as well for me. We start to go to the right place, the right energy and pick that all the time well, I'm looking forward to 2027 to see unpacks yeah, I've been trying not to like wording.
Speaker 3:There is possibly not very powerful. The whole sentence was not very powerful but, like I don't want to put too much.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You know, like we gotta be yeah, we've gotta be like really stepping into today and, yes, I join you in being excited about 2027. Like I can't wait to see what happens.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, but I'm excited about the journey to get there too. Yes, very good. Yeah, yeah, but I'm excited about the journey to get there too. Yes, very good yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to say. It's kind of like when you know, when you realize where you can go in meditative practice, and then you strive to get to that place, not the process to get to that place. It's like I can't wait to have that experience again. That's not what you should focus on.
Speaker 3:Exactly. Yeah, that's not what you should focus on. Exactly, that's a good analogy, right.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's kind of what we're living through right now. Yes exactly Until we get there. Yeah, yeah, I love it. Well, kevin, if our listeners want to get a hold of you or connect with you and your team to work with you, how can they find you? What does that look like?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so we're on. I guess the easiest way to find us is LinkedIn. Believe Crew Also. We have a website, wwwbelievecrewcom. Yeah, those are the two places that we find people.
Speaker 4:Amazing.
Speaker 2:Any special projects or retreats or gatherings that you want to share, that our listeners need to know about.
Speaker 3:Jamie's doing a retreat in October that will be on the beach and we're going to be having like aqua therapy. People come in different modalities to just help, massages, that kind of stuff and then just having fun. That's kind of her style. Next year we're planning a Gene Keys retreat, again where we do I have a partner I work with where we go through, educate and and do any healing that's available for each gene key and that usually is part of a more of like a 90-day program because it takes I think there's like 17 gene keys, so we do two of them per day. It's fairly intense but it's also like super educational about who you are yeah, wow, beautiful and then human design and gene.
Speaker 2:Key are the assessments that you highly encourage everyone to take and then load those reports into your favorite ai platform to get a summary yes, yes and then it's I mean, there's so many people out there that are experts in human design.
Speaker 3:If you search your network, you're going to find someone. Usually, if anything, they undercharge for the value they're giving you. So, definitely, whatever the number is that they give you, that's going to be yes, yeah, and if it's higher, you're probably working with someone that's even better and really really good at what they do. So it's worth I don't know 500 000 more than that. That depends on what they're coming up with and and who they are and what they want, how they want to help you, love it and if you bring that back to what you started us off with investing in yourself.
Speaker 2:If you look, yes investment in yourself. It's priceless right. Just pay it and know you're going to use it to continue to grow Exactly. Yeah, I love that. Any final thoughts or words for our listeners, or anything that we didn't touch on, that you wanted to touch on today?
Speaker 3:I thought this was amazing. I really thank you for your time and I guess I just want to express to everyone that we each have a path and there's so many people out there doing spiritual work, energy work, whatever. I think the biggest thing to do is not so much like if you feel like, oh cool, I need to reach out to belief crew. We want to be there for you, but I also just feel like our journey has been working with. You know 10 to 30 different people in our recovery, so I just would encourage you to just like start to notice and explore the spiritual side of who you are and notice especially the people that come into your life in this magical way and see what do they have to offer you and be willing to have some conversations and explore it. I think each of us have a path and I think that there's other companies out there like Belief Crew. There's other companies like your massage therapist or your Reiki person down the road or whoever it is. I've had the fortune of working with all these modalities. They're all amazing and I really would love for more people to do that. I think that as you explore more in different ways of receiving help, it's just amazing, so incredible. Go for it. You know, don't let your fears hold you back.
Speaker 3:And that's been especially true for me, being down here in Mexico and even experiencing some of the Mayan ceremonies, like there's not a single ceremony or anything I've ever tried. That was ever that I ever tried. Maybe I'm just listening to my gut and being on my path. That hasn't been amazing. It hasn't helped me to expand my spirituality. So don't listen to that voice. It's like, oh no, I can't been amazing. It hasn't helped me to expand my my spirituality. So don't, don't listen to that voice. It's like, oh no, I can't do this and it's too scary and it's too new. Just just try things. Have fun with it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Love that. I think that's the best advice. Explore more, right Don't yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we want to thank you. This was wonderful, very enlightening. Thank you so much for taking the time out to spend some time with us and our listeners and giving us some insight and some tips for us to continue on our own journey. Um, that's been tremendously valuable, I think. So thank you so much. We will make sure that we put all of your contact information in the show notes as well, so our listeners can find you. We're wishing you the best of luck, you and Jamie. This is amazing.
Speaker 3:Thank you very much, and thank you both for doing coaching and for helping people and getting your message out there, speaking to the broader community. So appreciate that as well.
Speaker 2:Thank you, absolutely. All right, until next time, and if you're looking for more information on Reignite Resilience, head on over to ReigniteResiliencecom. We'll see you all soon. Bye, everyone.
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